Which Super 6 Fighter Would Beat Calzaghe?

[Sir Tom Jones]

I think Taylor would have a very good chance of beating Calzaghe if he brought his A game.

Calzaghe's work rate and stamina would be Taylors downfall.

[Sparked_1985]

None.

Unless Abraham really hits as hard as people say he does and at 168, if he does then he has a punchers chance.

[The_Demon]

none of them
he has already beaten the best fighter in the tourney
abraham would get outworked although he has a small punchers chance but i cant see him taking calzaghe out in one,might score a KD though

[Kris Silver]

An injuryfree Kessler KO's Joe.

Bat your one of my and the really, most respectable, objective poster on the forum and I rarely disagree with you that strongly.

But I cannot get over how strongly you feel Kessler would have won at times, I really can't mate. I mean KO, seriously, that's bewildering to me.

It just doesn't add up to a solid reasoning to me for just some of the following reasons:


-Fighters often don't have flawless camps, they often miss a week of a certain kind of training. Look at Froch, he's had some fairly big training issues, injuries and because he won no one really bring that up so much.

-Now 2 weeks no sparring is not good, that's if he didn't spar at all which if is being claimed, I'm afraid I don't believe. He can still lightly tag with big pads, and hit without landing. Might sound weak, but is he really losing out so such a major degree by just not being able to land hard in sparring? Save that for the fight, which he did and well.

-When have we really seen Kessler so much better in other fights against B+ competition even? We didn't see a particularly poor Kessler in there. We saw one which demonstrated early on his timing, accuracy, power landing was all pretty on point, winning rounds, but a Calzaghe which as often, adapts and outclasses.

-Calzaghe also has very poor hands, to the point even if he wanted to he couldn't routinely land flush at the power he once landed more with. Did Kessler have that problem? No he was landing accurately and hard just fine.

-Did Kessler come close to KOing Calzaghe when he landed a few flush hard upper cuts, almost full power?

The answer is no.

-Was he unable to land those again because of what he was unable to do?

The answer is no, it was because of Calzaghes change of style, distance, movement.

-Calzaghe with his hand issues was able to come close to KOing Kessler off a body shot.

So how does Kessler miraculously KO this Calzaghe whom he couldn't do so when landing flush just fine?

It makes no sense at all I'm afraid.

Kesslers very good indeed and showed that, but he's just not as classy as Calzaghe, and that's what would set them apart if they fought 10 times over 10 years.

The only one I'd give a legit chance of outpointing him would be Dirrell, but it's impossible to plant a flag in his yard considering that he for the moment lacks the credentials to make such a pick. Kessler would be a more tempting pick had they not actually fought, with or without an injured mitt.

I could envision the scenario of Abraham winning by late-round knockout (and most likely come-from-behind). Froch would be a long shot to do the same, though not out of the question.

The only one I could never see beating Joe is Jermain Taylor.

I'm obviously on suicide mission tonight because I have much respect for you also, but Abraham or Froch KOing Calzaghe, when Kessler couldn't also just seems very unlikely. Neither are particularly harder hitting if at all, they're not quite as good technically, not as quick, and not as accurate. So it just isn't happening.

Taylor would win a few early rounds like Kessler did, but he'd lose by even more rounds as it progressed as he just can't cope with being put under so much pressure, so many punches, and such relentless speed. If Pavlik and Froch beat him now, Calzaghe now would run rings round him.

Sorry guess I just feel strongly about making this argument even though the poll of 80+% is strong as-well itself. Calzaghe already beat the best guy in this tourney, he's one of if not the greatest SMW's ever. The division is not now suddenly hugely stacked. He doesn't get outpointed or KO'd by any other these guys.

[Pugilistic™]

Bat your one of my and the really, most respectable, objective poster on the forum and I rarely disagree with you that strongly.

But I cannot get over how strongly you feel Kessler would have won at times, I really can't mate. I mean KO, seriously, that's bewildering to me.

It just doesn't add up to a solid reasoning to me for just some of the following reasons:


-Fighters often don't have flawless camps, they often miss a week of a certain kind of training. Look at Froch, he's had some fairly big training issues, injuries and because he won no one really bring that up so much.

-Now 2 weeks no sparring is not good, that's if he didn't spar at all which if is being claimed, I'm afraid I don't believe. He can still lightly tag with big pads, and hit without landing. Might sound weak, but is he really losing out so such a major degree by just not being able to land hard in sparring? Save that for the fight, which he did and well.

-When have we really seen Kessler so much better in other fights against B+ competition even? We didn't see a particularly poor Kessler in there. We saw one which demonstrated early on his timing, accuracy, power landing was all pretty on point, winning rounds, but a Calzaghe which as often, adapts and outclasses.

-Calzaghe also has very poor hands, to the point even if he wanted to he couldn't routinely land flush at the power he once landed more with. Did Kessler have that problem? No he was landing accurately and hard just fine.

-Did Kessler come close to KOing Calzaghe when he landed a few flush hard upper cuts, almost full power?

The answer is no.

-Was he unable to land those again because of what he was unable to do?

The answer is no, it was because of Calzaghes change of style, distance, movement.

-Calzaghe with his hand issues was able to come close to KOing Kessler off a body shot.

So how does Kessler miraculously KO this Calzaghe whom he couldn't do so when landing flush just fine?

It makes no sense at all I'm afraid.

Kesslers very good indeed and showed that, but he's just not as classy as Calzaghe, and that's what would set them apart if they fought 10 times over 10 years.



I'm obviously on suicide mission tonight because I have much respect for you also, but Abraham or Froch KOing Calzaghe, when Kessler couldn't also just seems very unlikely. Neither are particularly harder hitting if at all, they're not quite as good technically, not as quick, and not as accurate. So it just isn't happening.

Taylor would win a few early rounds like Kessler did, but he'd lose by even more rounds as it progressed as he just can't cope with being put under so much pressure, so many punches, and such relentless speed. If Pavlik and Froch beat him now, Calzaghe now would run rings round him.

Sorry guess I just feel strongly about making this argument even though the poll of 80+% is strong as-well itself. Calzaghe already beat the best guy in this tourney, he's one of if not the greatest SMW's ever. The division is not now suddenly hugely stacked. He doesn't get outpointed or KO'd by any other these guys.

nice post kris.

I'm not convinced Kessler's hand was seriously hurt on the night, especially when you see him throwing and landing bombs like below:

[Shadows]

Based on what we've seen from the fighters thus far? None of them.

However, maybe during the Super Six somebody will take their game to a whole new level and really show something special. I think that's what's great about this tournament--it's going to force the best out of each fighter.

[Chunk..]

Well, the best fighter P4P in the super 6 IMO is Kessler, and Calzaghe beat him fairly comfortably.

You do the math.

[IMDAZED]

If Ward lives up to his potential then maybe him but as it stands, Calzaghe beats them all. Let's face it - none of these guys are elite and that says a lot when you're talking about the top six guys in the division.

[Roger Mellie]

Well, the best fighter P4P in the super 6 IMO is Kessler, and Calzaghe beat him fairly comfortably.

You do the math.

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[Chase8400]

People picked Taylor? Wtf are you guys smokin?