Comments Thread For: Canelo Alvarez stripped of IBF title after agreeing to fight Edgar Berlanga

[mjh1969]

I applaud the IBF for enforcing their rules and trying to keep things fair in their rankings. It adds some type of credibility to their title. The only point of contention is there mandatory fighter Scull. Never heard of him. It would seem to me that the IBF, WBC, WBA and WBO would get together to discuss their rankings and come to some sort of consensus over who their top fighters should be for each division. Canelo has too much power in boxing and this action from the IBF is good for boxing. Hopefully the WBO, WBC, WBA can follow suit. Boxing fans know who the top fighters are, it just needs to be confirmed by these sanctioning bodies.

[champion4ever]

You’re not wrong. I hate bringing up others in a Canelo thread. But between him and Mayweather (and I’m a die hard Floyd fan), these two guys alone have changed the game a lot. The “0” thing is so overhyped now. I remember just a bit before that era, the Tito’s and Vargas’ and Mosley’s and De La Hoya primes, those guys were taking on everybody. And I could’ve cared less what their record was. They all fought each other and then some. As someone that loved the more fearless eras like that, even I find myself in certain cases writing fighters off “somewhat” when they have a couple losses. And it’s ridiculous. I notice it and then overlook my own ******ity. But back to the belt hostage, fighting guys that no one wants to see…… I just feel the two of them have unintentionally changed the game because it worked for THEM, but it’s terrible for the sport long term

While it’s true that Mayweather didn’t do catchweights or have ever become the undisputed champion of the world in any weight class.

However, comparing him to Canelo is kind of stretching it a bit too far. Mayweather was never this extreme unlike Canelo Alvarez.

For the exception of maybe Paul “The Punisher” Williams. He fought just about everyone in or around his weight class at 147 and 154; Including mandatories.

He fought Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez at 154 and names like Zab Judah, Juan Manuel Marquez, Sugar Shane Mosley and Manny Pacquiao ar 147.

The only fighter Mayweather was ever accused of ducking was Manny Pacquiao because he refused to fight him on his terms.

However, he did eventually fight him though but just not on Pac’s terms.

[boxingitis]

Lousy Example, Crawford did not hang around for years as undisputed 147 avoiding Ennis and every other top 147.

Yup he was stripped right after the Spece fight, he had no leverage being undisputed anymore, so he moved up. He couldn't fight anyone else for Undisputed other than Ennis.

[kiaba360]

I applaud the IBF for enforcing their rules and trying to keep things fair in their rankings. It adds some type of credibility to their title. The only point of contention is there mandatory fighter Scull. Never heard of him. It would seem to me that the IBF, WBC, WBA and WBO would get together to discuss their rankings and come to some sort of consensus over who their top fighters should be for each division. Canelo has too much power in boxing and this action from the IBF is good for boxing. Hopefully the WBO, WBC, WBA can follow suit. Boxing fans know who the top fighters are, it just needs to be confirmed by these sanctioning bodies.

It would also help if the ABC bodies came to a consensus as to who should be THE mandatory. But that would actually require contenders to actually fight each other...rather than waiting to be cherry-picked.

[A.B Counterhooks]

While it’s true that Mayweather didn’t do catchweights or have ever become the undisputed champion of the world in any weight class.

However, comparing him to Canelo is kind of stretching it a bit too far. Mayweather was never this extreme unlike Canelo Alvarez.

For the exception of maybe Paul “The Punisher” Williams. He fought just about everyone in or around his weight class at 147 and 154; Including mandatories.

He fought Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez at 154 and names like Zab Judah, Juan Manuel Marquez, Sugar Shane Mosley and Manny Pacquiao ar 147.

The only fighter Mayweather was ever accused of ducking was Manny Pacquiao because he refused to fight him on his terms.

However, he did eventually fight him though but just not on Pac’s terms.

...fought both Canelo and JMM at CW doe, one of them not even honoring it.

[A.B Counterhooks]

At least would be a mandatory fight, not this berlanga farce who was put on the front without any merits, and the real #1 was shipped to the next division. Obviously you don't care who the the fraud fights, actually you do, you don't want him against a real threat, you're fine as long as the opposition is soft and beatable.

Whoa whoa, easy there amigo, first of all I dont agree with Canelo choosing Berlanga I dont know where you get that from, secondly both Ryder and Mungia were top ranked contenders and dont act like canelo hasnt fought real threats b4 cause you know he has way more than both benavidez , morrell and scull combined(both cubans havent fought nobody yet but somehow they mandatories lol) and finally neither of us can control Canelos choice of opponents so dont be saying stuff Ive never said ,you want to talk about soft and beatable? Look at both morrells and scull resume but of course you wont act the same cause they both paisanos of yours.

[garfios]

Whoa whoa, easy there amigo, first of all I dont agree with Canelo choosing Berlanga I dont know where you get that from, secondly both Ryder and Mungia were top ranked contenders and dont act like canelo hasnt fought real threats b4 cause you know he has way more than both benavidez , morrell and scull combined(both cubans havent fought nobody yet but somehow they mandatories lol) and finally neither of us can control Canelos choice of opponents so dont be saying stuff Ive never said ,you want to talk about soft and beatable? Look at both morrells and scull resume but of course you wont act the same cause they both paisanos of yours.

Please man, ryder and munguia were not the top contenders, Morrell Jr and benavidez were. And ryder ran away from Jr after he saw him demolished caceres, and munguia has a similar career and canelo, with less talent, none of them was threat to canelo. I don't have to look a Morrell Jr resume, he was matched tougher than anyone in the division from the get go, and guys like benavidez and mbilli has refused to fight him, Scull? He is in another hemisphere so I don't know much about him. He, canelo, has fought threats and been favored by the judges, then stopped until he believed his own hype and fought bivol. Back to the beginning again. You're defending his choices so I replied to you, I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[smith3536]

It's unfair to do this to Canelo, but that's life.

Canelo is a true warrior. He will fight Berlanga who is very very dangerous. After so many wars, Canelo still wants to face young, hungry lions.
This fight makes me worried, but I trust that Canelo will get another victory.

War Canelo.

[TintaBoricua]

The funny thing is, he's not stuck between those two choices, he constantly chooses the less dangerous opponents, nobody was clamoring for berlanga, hey if not benavidez fans were asking for Morrell Jr. So I don't know why some people are against stripping canelo, actually all the alphabet soups should follow suit and let him powerless. But the greed runs deep.

Nobody in their right mind would fight Morell. He’s a Cuban that comes to ****, undefeated, looks galaxies better than Berlanga, and hasn’t had enough fights to for them pinpoint enough weak spots in the armor. I don’t think it does well enough here on PPV. Not enough fights yet as much as I wouldn’t mind seeing the fight.

Benavidez is MUCH more likely to get a shot at against Canelo than Morrell. Morell brings less money and I legitimately believe THAT guy is more dangerous than Benavidez. Benny at least looks like his defense can be prodded and poked. There’s a path to victory. Morell looks like the kind of brash young kid who’s not coming to play around. I mean, Benny will come to fight…but I think he just has more miles on the odometer than the Cuban.

[QballLobo]

I get what you wrote but here's what you meant: "It's funny how the org (WBC) with the most exceptional mandatorys is the one that enforces them least than the others.

They tried that once and the cash cow told them where to stick it before they came crawling back for those Canelo purse paydays.

He’s a made man. He doesn’t need the WBC strap or any other title. IBF can hand their title to Scull, Benavidez or whoever else and enjoy a fraction of those sanctioning fee’s based on the fighters purse.