Comments Thread For: Shakur Stevenson turns down 5-fight, $15M Top Rank deal: 'Arum's saving son Lomachenko from ass whooping'

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  • 57Blues
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    #51
    Originally posted by lred00
    I believe that Lomachenko would prefer to fight Stevenson than Davis if all things were equal "money". Also, I can't see Lomachenko taking a "ass whooping" from Stevenson. I can see Stevenson taking a loss.
    yep somewhere between rounds sever and eight he would have his ribs cracked and be worn down from all the mistakes that Lomo took advantage of -- experience does matter in the ring .......................Challenges taken and accepted makes a bit of dif too................

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #52
      Originally posted by Smash

      as far as i can see it was a take it or leave it offer from haney at the time, 25% for a shot at undisputed, thats what haney said, to me where shakur is and was & the fact that shakur says he beats haney EASY, its a no brainer to take it and then be the MAN at 135, instead of where he is now
      You do make a valid point He could’ve taken a bad deal just like others have in the past to get fights/ titles they want.

      Maybe He let his ego and voices on his team tell him he didn’t have to do that. My guess is he saw Bob do for others and wanted same done for him.

      That is reasonable.

      He isn’t in a bad place. He has choices. He can make this work for him if he makes the right decisions.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Smash

        one other point, i think you are over rating shakurs level at the moment, he has his home town fans leaving his fights before the end
        That doesn’t have anything to do with his skill. He is a consensus top 10 p4p boxer.

        I do wonder why that fight started near midnight in the east coast. That was ridiculous.

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        • factsarenice
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          #54
          Originally posted by Lefty0616
          Stevenson was wise to turn down a low-ball offer. Stevenson, if he keeps winning, is two to three fights, or less away...from a showdown with either Tank, Loma, or Cruz. $15 million is a nice amount, but Shakur will only keep approximately a fourth of the money - taxes, sanctioning fees, management, etc ..will get the rest. Arum was basically giving Stevenson a $4 million contract - that's $800,000 a fight.

          Stevenson is taking a huge gamble, but I believe he's worth more than what Arum offered.

          Hopefully, he'll sign with a promoter that can elevate his stardom, and pockets.

          Boxing is a cruel and corrupt sport.

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          Which promoter is going to pay more?
          Last edited by factsarenice; 07-08-2024, 09:50 AM.

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            #55
            Will this kid ever get decent PPV? Has he ever been to any? But I will definitely not pay for it. Fans wants to see an exciting fight. I've only watched him fight once and never again. He's a good defensive boxer but that's all. Nothing exciting from someone who only talk the talk

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            • factsarenice
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              #56
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              You do make a valid point He could’ve taken a bad deal just like others have in the past to get fights/ titles they want.

              Maybe He let his ego and voices on his team tell him he didn’t have to do that. My guess is he saw Bob do for others and wanted same done for him.

              That is reasonable.

              He isn’t in a bad place. He has choices. He can make this work for him if he makes the right decisions.
              What choices ? What am I missing?

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #57
                Originally posted by factsarenice

                What choices ? What am I missing?
                You are missing that He can go to each promotion and try to get the best deal, including going back to TR.

                He can also start his own promotion and work with whomever he wishes.

                Edit- the other part you are missing is the Saudi involvement. They have enough money to coerce the best fights. Shakur will be fine in against the other top LWs.
                Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-08-2024, 10:23 AM.

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                • factsarenice
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by uppercut510
                  do fighters have to have knock outs to be considered good?
                  Good at what? Making money, becoming a star? Absolutely!

                  Knock outs, and knock outs alone made Tank Davis the money-man

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                  • boxingitis
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                    #59
                    Top Rank has 3 of the titles. Tank won't fight Shakur, so why leave.

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                    • Lefty0616
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by factsarenice

                      Which promoter is going to pay more?
                      That's not for me to answer, again....

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