Comments Thread For: Shakur Stevenson turns down 5-fight, $15M Top Rank deal: 'Arum's saving son Lomachenko from ass whooping'

[uppercut510]

Good at what? Making money, becoming a star? Absolutely!

Knock outs, and knock outs alone made Tank Davis the money-man

Not every fighter is a knock out artist, shakur will never be one but he has skills, every time a fighter isnt a ko artist fans complain that they are boring, then you get a knock out artist and sometimes fans complain hes not skilled enough. tank is most def the man but he loses almost every round before the ko lol. Shakur wins almost every round and gets no ko.

[hitmanjosh]

Shakur Stevenson is a super talent however when you're a so so puncher it doesn't sell well, not only that Bob has kept him clear of Lomachenko his real star! I can't say if 15 Million is good or bad seeing he's not a PayPer View fighter, but 3 million a fight not bad considering you only sale well in Newark or unless the card is stacked. More to come.........................

[AmpMcv]

While I agree that Loma would rather face Stevenson over Tank...

Loma turned down Stevenson in the past for a reason. It's not because he was afraid he'd beat Stevenson.

Folks call Stevenson boring, and a non-draw, but Stevenson is currently in the bind that he's in, because his promoter could not get him the big name fights. Loma, Haney, Pitbull, and Frank Martin all said no....for whatever reason.

And I get it, Stevenson looked terrible against DLS. But he looked great against Herring, Valdez, and more. Top Boxers that have seen his better performances know Shakur is a threat to their momentum and career, and would prefer to avoid him and chase a showdown with Tank...and a bigger purse instead.

Stevenson was turned down because he didn't have a belt or a following. Why fight someone who brings nothing to the table? Now he has a belt and he'll get his wish for at least one fight.

[kiaba360]

The fight to make is vs Davis or Zepeda. I almost never say this - but they need a bit more seasoning - and that's down to Stevenson as he's unknown to casuals. Before a Zepeda-Shakur fight occurs Zepeda needs to build his name by fighting someone with a name - I don't know if PitBull can make a catchweight like 137 or 138 but that would make good money , say Zepeda-Pitbull or Stevenson-Pitbull.

Also, Keyshawn Davies and especially Andy Cruz are being moved waaaay too slowly. They should be in the mix but they're not

DLH has confirmed that they're going after Berinchyk. If Stevenson intends on staying at 135, he should probably stay with Top Rank. If he's gonna move up to 140, then go to Matchroom.

Cruz has been pro for one year (in 7 days) and has his 4th bout lined up (in 26 days), and will probably be in title contention next year. I would prefer if he was fighting every three months, but the pace that he's being moved is fine. Keyshawn turned pro in 2021 and currently ranks #3 WBC/WBO/IBF, so he's only a couple fights away from a title shot. We need to practice a bit more patience.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Not every fighter is a knock out artist, shakur will never be one but he has skills, every time a fighter isnt a ko artist fans complain that they are boring, then you get a knock out artist and sometimes fans complain hes not skilled enough. tank is most def the man but he loses almost every round before the ko lol. Shakur wins almost every round and gets no ko.

My primary issue with Shakur is that he never goes for it. When you're landing power shots at 40% clip but you never go through the gears and at least try to get your opponent out of there, it makes you look like you are either inexperienced or afraid. You can have all the skills in the world, but if you don't have the ability or desire to go for a finish when you're clearly levels above your opponent, sooner or later the cards will turn against you. Shakur should be taking a good hard look at Rigo's career. Bivol doesn't have power, but he still tries to get the finish when he sees an opportunity.

Another issue that Shakur is going to run into is that his style is predicated upon reflexes. He's got a ton of bad habits that he gets away with because he's got youthful speed and reflexes, and he spends the entire fight on his back foot, never really getting the weight transfer he'd need to actually land hurtful punches. As he ages, the speed, both reaction and physical, will get slower and slower. And if your style depends upon making the opponent miss by a centimeter, sooner rather than later you're going to get caught by a punch you'd have avoided 5 years before. So there's a clock ticking on his career, and the fact that he didn't want to gamble on taking Haney for undisputed says volumes.

[LAchargers373]

Stevenson is nuts he won’t get near 15M in his next 5 fights he’s a complete unknown. He thinks he’s bud Crawford but he doesn’t have close to the accomplishments and bud worked his way up Stevenson is entitled and thinks everyone owes him something

[uppercut510]

My primary issue with Shakur is that he never goes for it. When you're landing power shots at 40% clip but you never go through the gears and at least try to get your opponent out of there, it makes you look like you are either inexperienced or afraid. You can have all the skills in the world, but if you don't have the ability or desire to go for a finish when you're clearly levels above your opponent, sooner or later the cards will turn against you. Shakur should be taking a good hard look at Rigo's career. Bivol doesn't have power, but he still tries to get the finish when he sees an opportunity.

Another issue that Shakur is going to run into is that his style is predicated upon reflexes. He's got a ton of bad habits that he gets away with because he's got youthful speed and reflexes, and he spends the entire fight on his back foot, never really getting the weight transfer he'd need to actually land hurtful punches. As he ages, the speed, both reaction and physical, will get slower and slower. And if your style depends upon making the opponent miss by a centimeter, sooner rather than later you're going to get caught by a punch you'd have avoided 5 years before. So there's a clock ticking on his career, and the fact that he didn't want to gamble on taking Haney for undisputed says volumes.

good post, cant argue wit ya there

[factsarenice]

You are missing that He can go to each promotion and try to get the best deal, including going back to TR.

He can also start his own promotion and work with whomever he wishes.

Sure Shakur Stevenson can now go wherever he wants... but to what end? Self promotion is great if it gets access to a opponent that can draw.

The only opponents that fit his money problem are Tank Davis and Lomachanko and they're fighting for the same reason....money. Neither Eddie or Oscar have the names to cover the cost and DAZN isn't tossing money at building a network. The PBC doesn't have the deep pockets or platform/network it once had. Lou DiBella builds fighters, he doesn't buy them. The difference between Shakur and everyone that got what Shakur wants is that Floyd, Oscar and more recently Terrance Crawford all had an opponent and a clear plan. Shakur leaving TR is an act of frustration and just like his retirement there is no plan.

If Shakur wants money, he'll go back to Top Rank, cut down the number of fights and hope for the winner or loser of Tank vs Loma.

[pnut901]

Once a fighter has enough name recognition and the ability to hire people to handle the million moving parts of a fight promotion , I'd advise them to go the Mayweather way and promote their own fights. Floyd was getting a piece of every revenue stream connected to his fights. From the valet parking to the beers sold at the fight. As it should be , it's his life on the line in the ring. Why be a promoters employee when you can be your own boss ? The Haneys also seem to have a good business plan in not being tied to any one promoter.

[Smash]

thats the 3 mil a fight deal that bob had bud on for a long time i think, maybe 4 at the end i forget plus possibly a cheque here and there that seems to go on in the sport

its a grand deal if u are fighting lower level guys who u beat easy like bud did for years

easy cash

but not so good if u get the bigger fights u want more control like bud had when he got the spence fight

im not sure if shakurs deal would be flexible to allow him to make more cash if a tank fight came along in the middle of it, im sure it must be thinking about it