Bam Rodriguez’s resume is a lot better on paper.

[JakeTheBoxer]

24 year old kid beating 30+ old guys. Seems fine to me.

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24 year old kid beating 30+ old guys. Seems fine to me.

tank davis would be saying "im too young" in fact hes still too young or maybe hes to old now? ring has tank on the p4p list and ahead of bam...so pathetic

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

It is true, isn`t it?

Canelo`s best wins are Kovalev, GGG and Cotto and all these guys were over the hill...so..

Bam is very good IMO. he has a much better resume than Canelo at his age.

I didn’t realise Canelo was relevant to the discussion.

[IronDanHamza]

Whilst I don’t disagre, most people have better resumes on paper.

Look at Mayweather’s resume for example. Great resume, but on paper it’s much better than it is in reality. Same for Pacquaio. Even Muhammad Ali.

[Brother Mouzone]

guys like canelo/floyd etc...wait until the right time to fight guys even though they have the power to make the fight at any time. bam did not have any power to make estrada fight him a couple years ago since estrada was the a-side. he didnt wait until rungvisai was older, he fought him in his first title defense, and he only won the title by stepping in on short notice. he took advantage of opportunities to get big names, while other guys squandered them purposefully so

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BAM wants all the smoke and fights anybody at the 1st opportunity .................Hands down one of the best resumes in the sport and only in 20 fights, hell he was calling out the winner of Fernando Martinez and Kazuto Ioka after the fight ...No talk to my promoter BS , kid is a gamedog ..

[crimsonfalcon07]

So who are you picking to beat Estrada at 115?

As the kids say, stop the cap.

Estrada is still more than good enough to beat most everyone at 115 except maybe Ioka, who is also an elder statesman compared to Bam. As are all the champions. Ioka is 35, Martinez is 32, Tanaka is 29. Estrada is only 34. Inoue is 31. Only Junto Nakatani is anywhere near Bam's age. He's just very young to possess such skill and maturity.

This is just more transparent bias from people who previously have said they don't even watch the lower divisions.

At the time Bam fought these guys, they were universally considered the top of the division to the point that they were doing a mini 4 person tournament to decide the final king. This crap about them being washed up only started after Bam upset the apple cart. People do the same thing with Inoue, Crawford, Usyk, Fury, etc, and have done so with every successful champion. Let's see your own resumes, eh?

History will remember Bam Rodriguez. He's already likely a first ballot HOF with this run. And unless you really DKSAB, the skills speak for themselves. If you can't acknowledge what he's accomplished, that says more about you than it does about Bam.

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This argument would have more weight if Bam was near the end of his career and in his thirties.

He’s a 24 yr old who is taking out the old guard. Whilst making his way to the top. This is something the previous greats have done so as well.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

So who are you picking to beat Estrada at 115?

As the kids say, stop the cap.

Estrada is still more than good enough to beat most everyone at 115 except maybe Ioka, who is also an elder statesman compared to Bam. As are all the champions. Ioka is 35, Martinez is 32, Tanaka is 29. Estrada is only 34. Inoue is 31. Only Junto Nakatani is anywhere near Bam's age. He's just very young to possess such skill and maturity.

This is just more transparent bias from people who previously have said they don't even watch the lower divisions.

At the time Bam fought these guys, they were universally considered the top of the division to the point that they were doing a mini 4 person tournament to decide the final king. This crap about them being washed up only started after Bam upset the apple cart. People do the same thing with Inoue, Crawford, Usyk, Fury, etc, and have done so with every successful champion. Let's see your own resumes, eh?

History will remember Bam Rodriguez. He's already likely a first ballot HOF with this run. And unless you really DKSAB, the skills speak for themselves. If you can't acknowledge what he's accomplished, that says more about you than it does about Bam.

Estrada is ripe for picking, I think several guys at 115 have a good shot at beating him.

There’s no bias, it’s a biological fact, his best wins in terms of name value have come against once great champions now past their prime.

They’re still very good wins and as I said in the OP which you obviously lacked the coherency to read, he’s still a top 5 P4P guy IMO.

The entire point of the thread was just to highlight that Bam is seemingly the right guy in the right place at the right time. As he’s able to have meaningful fights against recognisable names early in his career.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Estrada is ripe for picking, I think several guys at 115 have a good shot at beating him.

There’s no bias, it’s a biological fact, his best wins in terms of name value have come against once great champions now past their prime.

They’re still very good wins and as I said in the OP which you obviously lacked the coherency to read, he’s still a top 5 P4P guy IMO.

The entire point of the thread was just to highlight that Bam is seemingly the right guy in the right place at the right time. As he’s able to have meaningful fights against recognisable names early in his career.

Ok but what is your point still?

All guys in the past did the same. Young future stars fight and beat older over the hill guys with the name value.

Klitchko was in his prime when Fury beat him or something?

[Elheath]

I actually think the Estrada that lost to Bam would've lost to any of the other 115 champs that night if done with unbiased judging, and was literally a ripe for picking target. People forget to consider the almost 20 month long vacation in the wrong side of 30 in the lower divisions coupled with the rather nice gifts he's received against Choco and Cortes the last few years. The difference is that the judges couldn't save Estrada from being KOed, but they certainly were trying their best seeing the scoring leading up.

By the way I think Bam > Ioka/Martinez/Tanaka > Estrada in 2024 so if the other three (or two once Ioka/Martinez unifies) don't flee then 2025 could be the first 115 undisputed champion.