Bam Rodriguez’s resume is a lot better on paper.

[IronDanHamza]

Ok but what is your point still?

All guys in the past did the same. Young future stars fight and beat older over the hill guys with the name value.

Klitchko was in his prime when Fury beat him or something?

I think his point is quite clear, Bam has a good resume but it looks better on paper, which is true.

He’s beat elite fighters, but none were in their prime. Pretty straight forward.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Ok but what is your point still?

All guys in the past did the same. Young future stars fight and beat older over the hill guys with the name value.

Klitchko was in his prime when Fury beat him or something?

Is it not self explanatory?

I didn’t realise Fury was relevant to the discussion either.

[crimsonfalcon07]

Is it not self explanatory?

I didn’t realise Fury was relevant to the discussion either.

It is very obvious... Every one of his top wins was ranked highly at the time of the fight by all the independent organizations. Cuadras was Ring #6 going into their fight. Sor Rungvisai was #1. Estrada was Ring champ. Sunny was #1, and still in his prime. None of them were viewed to be past their prime until they got schooled by Bam.

In fact, if you look at the ages of the world champions these days, you'll find the great majority to be in their 30's. Two of the best in the world are 37.

There's no "biological fact". The evidence clearly shows that all of the champs he beat are still in the range that the overwhelming majority of champions are in. You're simply seeking to devalue his accomplishments, and it's even more disingenuous considering how rare it is for two fighters to be in perfect condition at the arbitrary peak of their prime at the time of fight. Someone is always sick, injured, a few years too old or too young, etc. There are virtually NO fights for any of the greats in which their best wins don't get shat upon by petty people like you. There's ALWAYS excuses about how some guy wasn't at his best so it's not that great.

It's even more ****** considering Bam isn't even in HIS physical prime yet. He's a 24 year old kid who's still growing into his man strength. People still talk about how Canelo was too green at 23 with 43 wins to fight Mayweather. But you're here trying to discredit Bam for winning his signature fights? Right place at the right time? He had the balls to fight Cuadras two divisions up on 10 days notice when he'd not even fought for a regional title yet, and you want to say he just got lucky and Cuadras was washed?

You couldn't even put a single name down to beat Estrada. You copped out with "oh, there's several". Name one. You probably can't because, as you've said in the past, you don't follow the little guys. The amount of BS here is astonishing.

[IronDanHamza]

It is very obvious... Every one of his top wins was ranked highly at the time of the fight by all the independent organizations. Cuadras was Ring #6 going into their fight. Sor Rungvisai was #1. Estrada was Ring champ. Sunny was #1, and still in his prime. None of them were viewed to be past their prime until they got schooled by Bam.

In fact, if you look at the ages of the world champions these days, you'll find the great majority to be in their 30's. Two of the best in the world are 37.

There's no "biological fact". The evidence clearly shows that all of the champs he beat are still in the range that the overwhelming majority of champions are in. You're simply seeking to devalue his accomplishments, and it's even more disingenuous considering how rare it is for two fighters to be in perfect condition at the arbitrary peak of their prime at the time of fight. Someone is always sick, injured, a few years too old or too young, etc. There are virtually NO fights for any of the greats in which their best wins don't get shat upon by petty people like you. There's ALWAYS excuses about how some guy wasn't at his best so it's not that great.

It's even more ****** considering Bam isn't even in HIS physical prime yet. He's a 24 year old kid who's still growing into his man strength. People still talk about how Canelo was too green at 23 with 43 wins to fight Mayweather. But you're here trying to discredit Bam for winning his signature fights? Right place at the right time? He had the balls to fight Cuadras two divisions up on 10 days notice when he'd not even fought for a regional title yet, and you want to say he just got lucky and Cuadras was washed?

You couldn't even put a single name down to beat Estrada. You copped out with "oh, there's several". Name one. You probably can't because, as you've said in the past, you don't follow the little guys. The amount of BS here is astonishing.

Ehh, not really true.

Most of them were viewed past prime. Probably just Edwards who wasn’t.

Doesn’t mean they aren’t top wins, they are. But they certainly weren’t in their prime.

[shenmue]

It's definitely a little bit of right place right time so i do agree with the op but he's clearly very talented also, not his fault that the top guys were older, he's beat the top guys so you can't do anymore than that.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

It is very obvious... Every one of his top wins was ranked highly at the time of the fight by all the independent organizations. Cuadras was Ring #6 going into their fight. Sor Rungvisai was #1. Estrada was Ring champ. Sunny was #1, and still in his prime. None of them were viewed to be past their prime until they got schooled by Bam.

In fact, if you look at the ages of the world champions these days, you'll find the great majority to be in their 30's. Two of the best in the world are 37.

There's no "biological fact". The evidence clearly shows that all of the champs he beat are still in the range that the overwhelming majority of champions are in. You're simply seeking to devalue his accomplishments, and it's even more disingenuous considering how rare it is for two fighters to be in perfect condition at the arbitrary peak of their prime at the time of fight. Someone is always sick, injured, a few years too old or too young, etc. There are virtually NO fights for any of the greats in which their best wins don't get shat upon by petty people like you. There's ALWAYS excuses about how some guy wasn't at his best so it's not that great.

It's even more ****** considering Bam isn't even in HIS physical prime yet. He's a 24 year old kid who's still growing into his man strength. People still talk about how Canelo was too green at 23 with 43 wins to fight Mayweather. But you're here trying to discredit Bam for winning his signature fights? Right place at the right time? He had the balls to fight Cuadras two divisions up on 10 days notice when he'd not even fought for a regional title yet, and you want to say he just got lucky and Cuadras was washed?

You couldn't even put a single name down to beat Estrada. You copped out with "oh, there's several". Name one. You probably can't because, as you've said in the past, you don't follow the little guys. The amount of BS here is astonishing.

They blatantly were. Cuadras was on a real skid had lost his last four meaningful fights to Gonzalez, Estrada, Arroyo and then was stopped by Estrada in a rematch. He’d looked poor in close fights with sub-par opposition too.

SSR had lost to Estrada and looked like sh** against Ruenroeng, he was unquestionably past his best.

Estrada was very lucky to get a decision against Gonzalez, looked below par against Cortes and then managed to edge Gonzalez before remaining inactive way over a year due to recurring injury problems. Again, had clearly seen better days.

I’d give Ioka, Martinez, Tanaka and probably a few of the less established guys a decent shot of beating Estrada. I don’t think any of them beat him as impressively as Bam did though.

I think it’s clear who doesn’t follow these weight classes.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Is it not self explanatory?

I didn’t realise Fury was relevant to the discussion either.

Oh I see you just want to pretend like Bam is the only one veating older guys. So you don"t want any other boxer being mebtioned.

[IronDanHamza]

Oh I see you just want to pretend like Bam is the only one veating older guys. So you don"t want any other boxer being mebtioned.

Why do you seem offended at the TS pointing out that Bam's wins, whilst very good, weren't in their prime?

[JOITATS]

I think Ioka is by far the strongest opponent at 115. Franco fights similar to Bam, and Ioka easily outboxed him. Bam is ultra aggressive, and Ioka is a slick counter puncher.
But overall Bam’s physicality might be too much.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Oh I see you just want to pretend like Bam is the only one veating older guys. So you don"t want any other boxer being mebtioned.

No the thread is about Bam, not Canelo or Fury. Take your weird obsessions elsewhere.