Comments Thread For: Fury 'Not Bothered' by Loss of IBF Title for Rematch With Usyk

[Toffee]

Not when you have four belts.

Usyk had 3 belts and managed to go two years without facing a mandatory and has had another year since doing so.

It's possible, but only if you want to retain the belts. No-one said retaining the undisputed champion of the world would be easy.

[_Rexy_]

Usyk had 3 belts and managed to go two years without facing a mandatory and has had another year since doing so.

It's possible, but only if you want to retain the belts. No-one said retaining the undisputed champion of the world would be easy.

How long of that was he contractually bound to a fight/rematch?

Also, Dubois was a mandatory.

[Toffee]

How long of that was he contractually bound to a fight/rematch?

Also, Dubois was a mandatory.

Dubois was the mandatory I was talking about. 2 years after he won the belts. In the year since that he's faced no mandatories and has just rejected one.

He was contractually bound to rematches for a fair bit of that time but they were his contracts that he signed, not any outside obligations. As a mandatory to Joshua, that clause was his to sell. And he sold it.

I don't care whether he drops belts. That's his choice and I prefer the fights he's taken in the Joshua rematch and the very delayed Fury fight(s). But he can't continue to be undisputed if he doesn't face his mandatories - and so far he's chosen rematches over mandatories.

[_Rexy_]

Dubois was the mandatory I was talking about. 2 years after he won the belts. In the year since that he's faced no mandatories and has just rejected one.

He was contractually bound to rematches for a fair bit of that time but they were his contracts that he signed, not any outside obligations. As a mandatory to Joshua, that clause was his to sell. And he sold it.

I don't care whether he drops belts. That's his choice and I prefer the fights he's taken in the Joshua rematch and the very delayed Fury fight(s). But he can't continue to be undisputed if he doesn't face his mandatories - and so far he's chosen rematches over mandatories.

He hasn't CHOSEN them. He doesn't get an AJ fight without signing a rematch clause. he doesn't get a Fury fight without a rematch clause. Usyk is the career B side.

[pollywog]

Well, no. The IBF disputes that so he's disputed.

Not Undisputed.

Fortunately the linial title is the ONLY title there is.
Belts are just a trophy.

Its undisputable that Usyk hasnt been beaten in the ring. The IBF can suck balls!

[pollywog]

Parker will get his chance via mandatory.

Id rather see that than Usyk stripped and the belt emailed to Parker.

[Willow The Wisp]

Usyk had 3 belts and managed to go two years without facing a mandatory and has had another year since doing so.

It's possible, but only if you want to retain the belts. No-one said retaining the undisputed champion of the world would be easy.

True.
Usyk lasted one month, lol
All that blgger/"writer" hysteria about an "Undisputed" Heavyweight Champion.
Strictly an attention grabber for casual fans.

Usyk won the real, linial title from Fury.
They can't strip that one.

I'm hoping fans have learned something about Sanctioning bodies and "Title Belts" as a result of all this.

[Toffee]

He hasn't CHOSEN them. He doesn't get an AJ fight without signing a rematch clause. he doesn't get a Fury fight without a rematch clause. Usyk is the career B side.

He was AJ's mandatory. The rematch was his to sell. That was his choice.

Likely he would have to take a rematch clause to get the Fury fight but, again, that was a choice he made.

The division isn't just the guys holding a belt. It's all the fighters paying sanctioning fees and fighting. Usyk's personal contractual decisions don't dictate the sport.

The IBF did give Usyk an exemption. Then they extended it. The IBF and the fighters paying fees to fight for them deserve for that belt to be in play every now and then.

[_Rexy_]

He was AJ's mandatory. The rematch was his to sell. That was his choice.

Likely he would have to take a rematch clause to get the Fury fight but, again, that was a choice he made.

The division isn't just the guys holding a belt. It's all the fighters paying sanctioning fees and fighting. Usyk's personal contractual decisions don't dictate the sport.

The IBF did give Usyk an exemption. Then they extended it. The IBF and the fighters paying fees to fight for them deserve for that belt to be in play every now and then.

Yeah, Hearn had threatened AJ would drop the title if Usyk didn't take the rematch clause.


point is moot. I get it that you want AJ to be a fake champ again. Is what it is.

[Toffee]

Yeah, Hearn had threatened AJ would drop the title if Usyk didn't take the rematch clause.


point is moot. I get it that you want AJ to be a fake champ again. Is what it is.

And Usyk threatened to let him. It's just negotiation followed by decisions.

You take this too emotionally. Usyk made decisions and had to drop the belt as a result of not being able to defend it against his mandatory.

It's no more complicated than that. He wasn't railroaded. He wasn't tied up in red tape. He decided to sign up for two contractual rematches and, as a result, couldn't meet his obligations to the IBF.

No-one gets to decide whether that's right or wrong, or if further exceptions should be made because we prefer one fight over another. It just is what it is.