Comments Thread For: Devin Haney Deserves to Have Ryan Garcia Bout Viewed Through His Lens

[Bronx2245]

147 it will be for Garcia
Haney , well he’ll have to talk it over with Conte and see where he can weight bully or try to

Intentionally coming in 3lbs. over is definitely a weigh bully move! I think Haney goes to 147 too!

[Bronx2245]

I do not think so. Its really quite simple. Haney needs this fight. By playing this the wrong way, and I say this regardless of what one believes about Haney... He miscalculated horribly. People are not sympathetic because Haney is a weight cheat, he took the fight knowing the weight disparity and... while we have members here who are astute and tell us, the amount tested in the body, does not necessarily mean, that was the amount used during training, people still feel the amount detected was miniscule.

People feel like the thing to do would be to take responsibility for the loss and rectify it in the ring. Right, or wrong, this is how people feel. Bill haney thought people would see it different. Haney understands that public sentiment, concensis has its own rules!

The truth? Who knows. Ryan did not appear to have a major physical advantage, maybe he did. His main advantage was psychological. He had nothing to lose. When he realized Haney could not dent his pretty face, he knew he could do what he wanted to poor Devin. And he did. Bill then left the house quickly... Not a good look.

Fighter A makes 140. Fighter B comes in 3lbs. over, and then thanks Mayweather for the advice to come in overweight! Yet "People" call Fighter A the "weight cheat?" That's what wrong with the "People" of today! Not to mention Fighter B then tests positive for a PED, which is used to drop weight, while maintaining muscle! Ryan did everything he could to have the physical advantage, even by illegal means, and not only did he win, the "People" seem to have no problem with his tactics! Those same "People" didn't really have a problem with Margarito's illegal hand wraps too! Maybe the "People" are the problem?

[billeau2]

Fighter A makes 140. Fighter B comes in 3lbs. over, and then thanks Mayweather for the advice to come in overweight! Yet "People" call Fighter A the "weight cheat?" That's what wrong with the "People" of today! Not to mention Fighter B then tests positive for a PED, which is used to drop weight, while maintaining muscle! Ryan did everything he could to have the physical advantage, even by illegal means, and not only did he win, the "People" seem to have no problem with his tactics! Those same "People" didn't really have a problem with Margarito's illegal hand wraps too! Maybe the "People" are the problem?

How about Haney's history upcoming in way overweight? You don't think that there's mentioning because it's not technically illegal? Well so do quite a few others to each their own.

You don't see the irony here? Here's a guy who comes in sometimes over 10 lb rehydrated who knows the other fighter is not going to make weight and agrees to the fight. Then gets into a situation because of it allegedly... I mean we don't know what Haney way for that fight do we? Do we really know how much heavier Ryan was?

And regarding the band substance the same logic applies. We really don't know what advantage it gave Ryan only that it was illegal. That's just not good enough for me to cast Ryan into boxing hell.

[billeau2]

You mean the much smaller guy who beat the Super Middleweight Devin Haney and got robbed? Yeah, i’d say given the size disparity and Loma winning in the eyes of many, he’s pretty good for beating a Super Middleweight at his age, size, and coming off a long layoff.

Butt butt butt Kev... It was legal!! That makes it okay

[smith3536]

Devin Haney Targets Ryan Garcia Rematch
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/b...make-rival-pay

After everything that happened and even a lawsuit? Unbelievable. Haney should pursue his own career. Choose opponents carefully (due to the glass chin) and improve defense.

There are interesting facts about weight:

Haney 140lbs >>>>> 165.0lbs +25.0lbs >>> 18% increase (published by the press)
Prograis 140lbs >>> 156.8lbs +16.8 lbs >>> 12% increase (published by the press)
Ryan 143lbs >>>>>> 160.0lbs +17.0lbs >>> 12% increase (Ryan interview)

Rehydrating 25lbs is insane. It's the exception, not the rule. Even though Ryan was heavier, he didn't achieve the same thing. Lampley said in an interview that Crawford rehydrates to 165lbs at 147. Again an increase of approximately 12%. An 18% increase is a lot.

CSAC passed a rule in 2019 preventing boxers from going over 15 percent of their body weight. Haney easily surpassed this rule.

"Haney Broke Weight Rules"
https://boxingnews.com/prograis-dema...-rules/

[Bronx2245]

How about Haney's history upcoming in way overweight? You don't think that there's mentioning because it's not technically illegal? Well so do quite a few others to each their own.

You don't see the irony here? Here's a guy who comes in sometimes over 10 lb rehydrated who knows the other fighter is not going to make weight and agrees to the fight. Then gets into a situation because of it allegedly... I mean we don't know what Haney way for that fight do we? Do we really know how much heavier Ryan was?

And regarding the band substance the same logic applies. We really don't know what advantage it gave Ryan only that it was illegal. That's just not good enough for me to cast Ryan into boxing hell.

Please tell me when Haney came in over the rehydration limit? We know he blows up, but he never broke the rules! Ryan, on the other hand, intentionally came in 3lbs. over, and bragged about it with Mayweatherr, and to top it all off, he tested positive for PEDs! That’s comparing apples to oranges!

What Do you mean we don’t know what Haney weighed? He was below 140! We know that for a fact! You’re trying to make Haney to be a cheat, but only Ryan cheated…PERIOD!

[MulaKO]

Intentionally coming in 3lbs. over is definitely a weigh bully move! I think Haney goes to 147 too!

Where’s the proof that was intentional ???
The Ostarine was supposed to take care of that but I guess it didn’t
Fact of the matter is still Haney got beat by skills not Ostarine

[billeau2]

Please tell me when Haney came in over the rehydration limit? We know he blows up, but he never broke the rules! Ryan, on the other hand, intentionally came in 3lbs. over, and bragged about it with Mayweatherr, and to top it all off, he tested positive for PEDs! That’s comparing apples to oranges!

What Do you mean we don’t know what Haney weighed? He was below 140! We know that for a fact! You’re trying to make Haney to be a cheat, but only Ryan cheated…PERIOD!

You just confirmed everything I just texted. Yes that's our point of disagreement Good job..


According to another poster hany did break the law because there is a limit. Which I give exactly two s**** about because of my point is just because something is not against the law does not make it right.

[MulaKO]

You just confirmed everything I just texted. Yes that's our point of disagreement Good job..


According to another poster hany did break the law because there is a limit. Which I give exactly two s**** about because of my point is just because something is not against the law does not make it right.

Didn’t know that so many boxing fans are law abiding citizens
LmFao
I guess when it fits your agenda it’s A okkkkkk

[JOITATS]

The honest truth is, no one cares about Haney's lens.
Haney fails terribly to see anything other than his own perspective.

That's why he complains so much to the point that it gets annoying. So annoying you want to see him get knocked out again, asap.


Even boxing experts can agree, Haney has a basic fundamental flaw. He has poor defense against a good left hook.
Ryan exposed that, over and over again. Those knockdowns weren't because of the PEDs.