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  • #11
    Originally posted by landotter View Post
    What Fury says as far as trash talk is fairly mild. His inconsistent stories and opinions are nut case worthy, but his trash talk is just basic.

    But if Joshua gets a thrill out of denying Fury the chance to be undisputed, sure. Good on him. He will still be no better than the third best HW in anyone's eyes
    Fury already had his chance to become undisputed, and he was found wanting. Fighters are subject to complex politics in the modern era. The next guys in line don't owe Fury another shot to get it right. He blew it, so too bad for him.
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    • #12
      Originally posted by Roberto Vasquez View Post
      AJ's right about that rabbit talk. Just sounded nasty. Doesn't work on Uysk and made Fury look bad



      Aj apologized to Usyk afterwards. How many times do you see that with boxers? And although AJ acted like an emotional moron, it was only because he had just lost and was actually trying to do a good thing by awarding Uysk with the belts - and then Uysk's team wouldn't let him. So he spit his dummy. Least he said sorry for it though.


      I am not saying that he is beyond redemption, or that losing the biggest fight of your life does not engender raw emotion, I am saying that he is not in a position to sit on a high horse of moral platitudes, and lecture Fury or anyone else about disrespect. Specifically, it's poor form for him to do it after behaving like that in front of the entire planet, and at the expenses of who? Usyk
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      • #13
        Fury is obviously mentally unstable. Combine that with substance abuse and you have a recipe for disaster. Does he talk a lot of shyte? Some of it is for publicity, the rest is that he is nuts!

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        • #14
          Don’t care if Dubois/Joshua is the IBF belt holder. Undisputed is still happening between Usyk/Fury 2. Until Someone beats the winner of Fury/Usyk they are nothing more than a paper champion. We have a legit undisputed champion for the first time since Lennox Lewis retired. The belts are now irrelevant until Usyk/Fury winner retires or loses to another fighter. If both retire after their rematch then the cycle can start over again. Until either the rematch winner loses or retires nobody has claim as a legit HW champion. That is my opinion…

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          • #15
            Originally posted by fistandfury View Post
            I am having trouble tracking this, wasn't it AJ who totally flipped out and disrespected Usyk after the fight, throwing belts out of the ring, crying, incoherent? At this point, I detest this clown as much if not more than Fury.
            Though AJ was more disappointed with himself than that he disrespected Usyk. Besides, he apologised to Usyk later. That's totally something else as what Tipsy King did and has even doubled down on his disrespect for Usyk by calling him a local amateur. That you hate AJ is obvious but comparing apple with orange doesn't make sense at all. Tipsy King has always disrespected his opponents. That’s the point here.

            BTW, Tipsy King is only making a fool of himself by calling someone who almost killed in ring before the whole world a local amateur.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by joe strong View Post
              Don’t care if Dubois/Joshua is the IBF belt holder. Undisputed is still happening between Usyk/Fury 2. Until Someone beats the winner of Fury/Usyk they are nothing more than a paper champion. We have a legit undisputed champion for the first time since Lennox Lewis retired. The belts are now irrelevant until Usyk/Fury winner retires or loses to another fighter. If both retire after their rematch then the cycle can start over again. Until either the rematch winner loses or retires nobody has claim as a legit HW champion. That is my opinion…
              hopefully Dubois wins. then after Usyk beats fury for 2nd time he can go beat Dubois for 2nd time and have 2 wins over top 3 heavyweights.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by landotter View Post
                What Fury says as far as trash talk is fairly mild. His inconsistent stories and opinions are nut case worthy, but his trash talk is just basic.

                But if Joshua gets a thrill out of denying Fury the chance to be undisputed, sure. Good on him. He will still be no better than the third best HW in anyone's eyes
                AJ has a far better resume than Fury and he has knocked out all their common opponents. So, Fury is only second best of his era in eyes of his cult. He's running from Usyk because he knew what was coming the same way he's being running from AJ.

                If he had succeeded in avoiding Usyk till he retires you his fanboys would have continued to preach the whole world forever that he's the greatest heavyweight boxer ever.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Boxviewer View Post

                  AJ has a far better resume than Fury and he has knocked out all their common opponents. So, Fury is only second best of his era in eyes of his cult. He's running from Usyk because he knew what was coming the same way he's being running from AJ.

                  If he had succeeded in avoiding Usyk till he retires you his fanboys would have continued to preach the whole world forever that he's the greatest heavyweight boxer ever.
                  Far better? i don't think so AJ has barely faced any good fighters in their prime just past it fighters one (Wlad) who nearly beat him at the age of 41 with 2 years out the ring Fury beat him more convincingly. I think context matters if Fury pulls Lennox Lewis out of retirement and beats him does that make his resume better than Joshuas? extreme example but Joshuas resume isn't all that either just good marketing, yes everybody is running from Joshua like Wilder and Fury even though it's on record Fury offered him the fight just over a year ago which he turned down. Hindsight is great and all that i don't think seeing Fury as the 1st/2nd best heavyweight was due to his "cult/fanboys" it's just based on facts at the time.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by joe strong View Post
                    Don’t care if Dubois/Joshua is the IBF belt holder. Undisputed is still happening between Usyk/Fury 2. Until Someone beats the winner of Fury/Usyk they are nothing more than a paper champion. We have a legit undisputed champion for the first time since Lennox Lewis retired. The belts are now irrelevant until Usyk/Fury winner retires or loses to another fighter. If both retire after their rematch then the cycle can start over again. Until either the rematch winner loses or retires nobody has claim as a legit HW champion. That is my opinion…
                    So, you're saying that you very delusional? Tipsy King will never be an undisputed champion. His carefully created bubble is totally bursted and now he's in deep depression and total denial. It's to be seen if he will actually step in the ring with Usyk again.

                    Besides, the undisputed championship is not forever. Once you lose one of the belts, in the ring or by vacation, you're no longer the undisputed champion. Usyk will remain the last undisputed champion till someone else becomes the undisputed champion.

                    Lennox Lewis didn't retire as the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world rather he was the last undisputed champion till Usyk became the undisputed champion on 18th May 2024. Ii's that simple and has nothing to do with your sentiments.

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                    • #20
                      AJ and Fury just agreed to fight via video chat in late Feb if AJ wins. Fury lose or win vs Usyk. Turki was there with AJ sorting it out they seemed quite amicable. It's on youtube. AJ was in London with Furys manager.

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