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  • The D3vil
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    #71
    Originally posted by kafkod

    You don't score fights by averaging total punches landed over total rounds. If you did, and you took a point away from Fury for the KD, that would make Usyk the winner. I don't understand why you are using Compubox numbers to back up your opinion that Fury won when the numbers actually show Usyk winning clearly.

    If you use the Compubox numbers correctly they show Usyk outlanding Fury in 7 out of 12 rounds, which translates to Usyk winning the fight by 3 points. The numbers are only part of the picture though. The reality is that Usyk landed many more hard, clean punches than Fury and he hurt Fury more than Fury hurt him.



















































    I didn't say that the fight should be judges based on Compubox, but Compubox can give you an idea of how the fight went.

    And I hardly think landing 13 more punches over 12 rounds is a "dominant" victory.

    It was a razor thin decision on the cards and Compubox

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    • kafkod
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      #72
      Originally posted by The D3vil

      I didn't say that the fight should be judges based on Compubox, but Compubox can give you an idea of how the fight went.

      And I hardly think landing 13 more punches over 12 rounds is a "dominant" victory.

      It was a razor thin decision on the cards and Compubox
      Compubox has Usyk landing 37 more power punches than Fury and landing more total punches than Fury in 7 out of 12 rounds. Usyk also had a 10 - 8 round in the 9th.

      That's not a razor thin decision type fight. That's a clear, decisive win for Usyk.

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        #73
        Originally posted by kafkod

        Compubox has Usyk landing 37 more power punches than Fury and landing more total punches than Fury in 7 out of 12 rounds. Usyk also had a 10 - 8 round in the 9th.

        That's not a razor thin decision type fight. That's a clear, decisive win for Usyk.
        13 punches over 12 rounds is not "clear, decisive".

        In the 1st round, Usyk landed 9 punches to Fury's 8.

        Other rounds is 13-15, 13-12, & 15-13.

        Those are basically all swing rounds that could go either way based on what punch landed.

        A Fury uppercut that hurts Usyk can be worth more than 2 or 3 jabs or a left hook that's partially deflected or barely hurts Fury.

        It was a razor thin fight

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          #74
          Originally posted by Oldskoolg
          Why do you lot think it was close?
          Only Fury fans seem to think it was this razor close fight that could have gone either way.

          The rest of us just saw Fury win 3-4 of the middle rounds.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Bro. Steve
            Earlier, a commenter said Fury could have won with a punch-n-hug strategy plus leaning heavily on Usyk. Props to Fury for not doing that. I always hated it when Wladimir Klitschko pulled that dirty trick on his opponents. Boxing is about hitting and not getting hit, but I personally dislike the tactics where “not getting hit” means we get 36 minutes of two sweaty men hugging.
            He tried, Usyk is deceptively strong on the inside and Fury couldn't propertly clinch and lean.

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              #76
              Originally posted by joe strong

              I had the final score Usyk 115-112… Ya I had it 4-2 after 6 then Fury started his showboating & clowning around. He was in control & I think he thought he was on the cusp of stopping him but Usyk dominated the 2nd half. He let his foot off the gas & Usyk kicked his ass the 2nd half. I can’t remember what round i gave him but 4-2 Fury after 6 but Usyk 5-1 from rounds 7-12. That is what I observed.
              Fury was showboating and clowning from the opening bell. He didn't lose focus, he was gassed, which is why he stopped using his long guard so much after the first four rounds. Usyk had him doing 3 minute sets of side laterals, killing his delt. THAT is why he got caught in round 9. Usyk landed that particular 1-2 combo from the first round, but Fury was too exhausted to take ANYTHING off of it by the ninth round and it hit perfectly.

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                #77
                Originally posted by _Rexy_

                Only Fury fans seem to think it was this razor close fight that could have gone either way.

                The rest of us just saw Fury win 3-4 of the middle rounds.
                Yeah, but, you're an idiot.

                So there's that.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by The D3vil

                  13 punches over 12 rounds is not "clear, decisive".

                  In the 1st round, Usyk landed 9 punches to Fury's 8.

                  Other rounds is 13-15, 13-12, & 15-13.

                  Those are basically all swing rounds that could go either way based on what punch landed.

                  A Fury uppercut that hurts Usyk can be worth more than 2 or 3 jabs or a left hook that's partially deflected or barely hurts Fury.

                  It was a razor thin fight
                  Over the whole fight, Fury only landed 2 uppercuts that hurt Usyk, and they both landed in the same round. The rest of the time, Fury was doing nothing but flicking and poking with his jab, while Usyk was landing solid punches to head and body with both hands, hurting Fury multiple times and bullying him around the ring.

                  Compubox shows Usyk landing 27 more power punches than Fury and he also scored a knockdown. Usyk's punches were consistently cleaner and harder than Fury's.
                  Last edited by kafkod; 06-27-2024, 09:00 PM.

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                    #79
                    the close fight isnt the problem. fury getting so trashed he can barely walk is the problem, now he has guaranteed he wont win the rematch going back on the bottle.

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                    • The D3vil
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by kafkod

                      Over the whole fight, Fury only landed 2 uppercuts that hurt Usyk, and they both landed in the same round. The rest of the time, Fury was doing nothing but flicking and poking with his jab, while Usyk was landing solid punches to head and body with both hands, hurting Fury multiple times and bullying him around the ring.

                      Compubox shows Usyk landing 27 more power punches than Fury and he also scored a knockdown. Usyk's punches were consistently cleaner and harder than Fury's.
                      That's your perception.

                      I saw Fury doing a lot of good work throughout the middle rounds and he outlanded Usyk in the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, & 6th rounds.

                      He was outlanded by 2 or less punches in the 2nd, 7th, & 11th rounds.

                      That's 8 rounds that he either has an argument for winning or could go either way.

                      It was a razor thin fight, like I said.

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