Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury Just The Latest In A Long Line To Be In Denial About Defeat

[The plunger man]

Being imbued with self-confidence may be one, crucial factor in boxing, more so than in non-combat sports, due to its inherent danger. That being said, Usyk is not exactly the same kind of boxer as Mike Tyson, not one to instill quite the same sort of fear in the heart of his opponents, and Fury is the bigger man by far. So, one should not exaggerate the importance of self-belief. Even to the extent that it is indeed crucial, it would play an especially important role in the days leading up to the rematch, and during the fight itself. But Fury is now at a stage when a healthy dose of intellectual honesty would be required, to dissect the initial fight and identify where it was lost, in order to take corrective action. Does he need to be in better shape ? Was his defense effective ? Was he aggressive enough ? Was he able to take advantage of those few uppercuts that actually rocked Usyk ? Pretending he was the better man on May 18th will not help him improve and make required adjustements in preparation for the rematch.

usyk has intimidation and fear in another way….he breaks you down mentally because he has so many ways to win, he is the smaller man and yet he has you chicken dancing from ring post
to ring post , you have your best spell in the fight and then he comes out and steps it up to a level you just can’t keep up with , his fitness is on another level , he is always in range and his has this mental fortitude that will also break you…..Usyk is a monster albeit in a different way to what Mike Tyson was…..Tyson gave up when he was losing a fight usyk just presses over drive and whizzes past you

[Left Hook Louie]

A dominant 9th round was pretty much what the fight will be remembered as.

Fury was lost at sea after that and if he'd tried to press the action too much in the championship rounds would have opened himself up to getting starched good and proper.

I doubt he can actually remember much in real time during the fight and if he rewatched but edited out the 9th round then sure. He'd think he won.

For training purposes they should probably just show the 9th round on loop while he's in the gym.

This (in bold above) is good analysis of Fury's post-fight thought processes (or lack thereof) given the concussive beating he took in Round 9.
Well put, OP.
Good lord, his ugly melon-head got absolutely hammered.

[Left Hook Louie]

Nah...not buying the lack of focus eh.

Fury's tactics were totally to showboat and clown hoping to put Usyk off. It didn't work and there was no plan B.

It's in his nature to be a goofy giant just like it is in Usyks to be a steely eyed warrior.

HAHAHA, that has a very funny ring to it.
I'd say it's not just his nature, it's his physical / corporeal being as well.
Put him in a live-action Shrek remake.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Ya, ya, ya. Fury's a pain in the arse. I agree.

But let's be honest too. A guy who shuts out still reigning Wladimir Klitschko and goes in three times with the biggest puncher of the era is NOT going to be "afraid of" anyone else in the division.

Who? Joshua? Show me he can go 12 rounds with an in shape Ruiz.

Parker? That's his sparring partner for pete's sake.

Just saying for balance.

I am all for balance but your post falls down at the start - because Fury constantly mocked Wlad saying he would be too scared to take the *contracted* rematch. And as soon as Wlad took it - Fury retired and also took a 2 year backdated PED ban in that period.

Really Fury is scared of everyone (remember how he avoided David Price?). You do have to give him credit for taking the Wilder fights but then he *really* believed Wilder could never hit him on the chin (he said it again and again and called Wilder a "windmiller") before the first fight. That went well....

Joshua - Ruiz is unique because Ruiz could take his hardest punches. That first fight - no one else would have survived that punch Ruiz took after he got up from the 1st knockdown. BUT Joshua came back for more against Ruiz - win or lose. At the time Fury and Wilder were telling interviewers that AJ should take a warm-up fight first (they really did) Joshua also came back for more against Uysk and also took both fights straight away. No messing around.

This is the point I'm making. I'm not saying AJ is better than Fury. I don't know he is. I honesty would be a fan of Fury (and I was a fan once) if he took on live top-10 guys but you know if he does beat Usyk - he will basically retire or do everything he can to avoid defending against anyone good. The guy has only ever successfully defended his titles 3 times. The first ever HW boxer to fight a MMA guy to avoid fighting for undisputed!

[joe strong]

in the bag after 6 lol….joe are you for real that’s half the fight only. Even if fury was up 4-2 after 6 which he wasn’t usyk then won 8,9,10,11 and 12 and that’s a total of 5 round plus Tyson losing a point for the knockdown…..fury did not win until round 4 and then he had 5,6 and a close 7 and then usyk then completely took over again.
it was not close and usyk completely dominated the last 3rd of the fight and fury should have been stopped

I had the final score Usyk 115-112… Ya I had it 4-2 after 6 then Fury started his showboating & clowning around. He was in control & I think he thought he was on the cusp of stopping him but Usyk dominated the 2nd half. He let his foot off the gas & Usyk kicked his ass the 2nd half. I can’t remember what round i gave him but 4-2 Fury after 6 but Usyk 5-1 from rounds 7-12. That is what I observed.

[Mikeyferry31]

All this talk if fury getting 'too comfortable and gave it away' is absolute bollocks. He lost the early rounds, was getting backed up by the 'middleweight' hit to the chest often, not super dominant rounds on punches landed but usyk too them for sure. Them as you'd expect of a fighter like fury he came back, did well and won 3 odd rounds on the trot, still having to work hard though, then usyk stepped it up a level, while fury gassed. He broke furys nose in the 8th and basically KO'D him in the 9th

[Phase III]

It’s crystal clear that Fury doesn’t have the engine and stamina that Usyk has. Usyk’s game plan was to make Fury work and drown him in deep waters. Next fight, same result except Usyk will definitely get the KO.

Ref clearly saved Fury in round 9.

[billeau2]

In over five decades of watching fights, I can't remember having seen a heavyweight who looks as ugly in a boxing attire as Fury.

Except perhaps Gabe Brown.

he looks like a big baby in diapers with two a r s e s!

[billeau2]

Fury has shown before that he can keep fighting when jacked. I don't understand this sentiment that the fight should have been stopped. Fights are stopped when fighters can't go on. Fury could have taken a knee He chose to stand and fight. He was trying to avoid two point round.

I think it was a close fight both men had their moments I'm glad Usyk got the nod. If nothing else it sets us up for another grand trilogy.

[The D3vil]

No sober person could judge that fight to Fury.

I don't drink or smoke

Again, the compubox stats show that it was a close fight & the judges had it as a split decision.

I'm happy with my stance.

Like I said, y'all just hate Fury