SHOW ME How roids are bad for boxing

[Gary Coleman]

Calling them "roids" is lazy. There are designer drugs out there that are used for all kinds of purposes.

The general concept is that they improve one's ability far beyond what they would otherwise be capable of, whether it be strength, speed, endurance or recovery.

If a boxer is on performance enhancing drugs, they are likely to be stronger and have more stamina, thus possessing more ability to inflict damage on their opponent.

You need scientific proof of this in 2024?

[brettWall]

It's a corrupt sport from top to bottom, which includes testing bodies, and fans. These testing bodies just cherrypick who they want to expose. They expose big fish once in a while to create a semblance of being fair. "See, we're not only exposing insignificant ones. We're doing our job." Many roiders get away which include those who claim to be clean. There are hundreds of fighters around the world and these testing bodies only expose an average of one per 2 months. How does this even make sense? Fans are also corrupt. They're only loud when it's not their fighter that tested positive. They play cricket when their fighter test positive and defend him to death.

[Smash]

we need to do an experiment, we need to clone ryan garcia (yes make 2 of him), 1 is bad enough and 2 will be at least twice as bad & certainly unbearable, but for this we need 2 of him, then, dose one guy up with peds and have the other do his normal stuff & then make the fight and see what happens, make it a trilogy and we will have the proof right there

[billeau2]

Are you suggesting that roids don't do anything?

If so, you're an idiot.

If not, then there just needs to be an equal playing field, otherwise its not good for boxing is it?

Pretty simple really.

He is not... He is asking to consider "what they do" in relation to what other dangerous things a fighter deals with... His example: "Getting punched in the head" versus "using a banned substance"

[billeau2]

I didn't undo any edits.

I'm just genuinely confused what you are saying.

Are you saying roids do nothing? And you want a video to prove it does?

Have you ever been on YouTube?

He could be a little more clear lol...

[billeau2]

Of course I'm gonna "Show me" you...
It's in the damn title !

So many roid fights, so little to show

You could be a little more clear here about your point. I think you are confusing people... If I am correct, good, if not, maybe I misunderstood your point.

Your first statement compares steroid abuse to other processes in boxing. You ask people: What causes more injury? blows to the head, or Roids? then you buttress that point by showing how little we can assess the damage of drug substances versus the immanent results of getting smacked in the head.

If I am correct...

The confusion is, people think you are making a definite and categorical statement about roids, in a vacuum so to speak... Instead of asking for the same kind of proof that we see in the effects of being hit, etc... BTW your argument could apply to all maladies a contact sport athlete suffers,,, Not just shots to the head.

If I am correct, hopefully this helps, if I am wrong? well I also do not understand your argument fully.

[billeau2]

we need to do an experiment, we need to clone ryan garcia (yes make 2 of him), 1 is bad enough and 2 will be at least twice as bad & certainly unbearable, but for this we need 2 of him, then, dose one guy up with peds and have the other do his normal stuff & then make the fight and see what happens, make it a trilogy and we will have the proof right there

Smash Smash... don't you keep up? they did this with DEvin Haney already! Problem was as soon as the clone came out the jaw would turn to powder, and then the hands would follow.

[M312]

He is not... He is asking to consider "what they do" in relation to what other dangerous things a fighter deals with... His example: "Getting punched in the head" versus "using a banned substance"

Maybe, but his reply seemed to suggest he believes 'roids' are some sort of conspiracy theory lol Feels like a flat earth thread.

But regardless, getting punched in the head harder than the person is able to do naturally is obviously worse anyway.

Really not much to it.

[billeau2]

Maybe, but his reply seemed to suggest he believes 'roids' are some sort of conspiracy theory lol Feels like a flat earth thread.

But regardless, getting punched in the head harder than the person is able to do naturally is obviously worse anyway.

Really not much to it.

I have not heard back from him but I think the relative effects are his point. Its confusing because he is trying to also imply that our understanding of steroids is faulty... this is a proverbial rabbit hole:

Briefly: Steroids are simply one type of catalyst to make the body produce more growth signals. What many attribute to harmful effects is chronic misuse, ignorance of how to use. But I actually had a dear friend who I taught with, die from taking too much Creatin!! I don't think this is even a steroid (Iron Dan?). People also abuse Caffeine powder and get into serious trouble, etc. Is there something about steroids that make them more dangerous? I don't know. I do think it is a decent question.

Compare this to a different social user, and we can definitely know that bath salts, the stronger opiates, cause harm. Of course the difference in the type of user could be the reason for this.

[IronDanHamza]

I have not heard back from him but I think the relative effects are his point. Its confusing because he is trying to also imply that our understanding of steroids is faulty... this is a proverbial rabbit hole:

Briefly: Steroids are simply one type of catalyst to make the body produce more growth signals. What many attribute to harmful effects is chronic misuse, ignorance of how to use. But I actually had a dear friend who I taught with, die from taking too much Creatin!! I don't think this is even a steroid (Iron Dan?). People also abuse Caffeine powder and get into serious trouble, etc. Is there something about steroids that make them more dangerous? I don't know. I do think it is a decent question.

Compare this to a different social user, and we can definitely know that bath salts, the stronger opiates, cause harm. Of course the difference in the type of user could be the reason for this.

Creatine not a steroid, no.

Are you sure he died from creatine use? I find that very difficult to believe.

Creatine is a safe, over the counter supplement to use.