Which Current Heavyweight would you give the best chance against Usyk

[Atypicalbrit]

Some choices

Zhang Zhelei
Joseph Parker
Agit Kabayel
Andy Ruiz jr
Jared Anderson
Bakhodir Jalalov

[hugh grant]

Well, give them all a try. Then we will see. If nobody beats him he's goat alongside Ali.

[TheProudLunatic]

None...........

[Rockybigblower]

Kabayel if Usyks body weakness is to be believed.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Yes basically anyone with a good chin who hits hard. If you have a good chin you can really put it on him. Uysk said he found Chisora tough to deal with. So you need that agressive approach. Don't try to outbox Usyk!

Joyce actually hit him a lot in their old fight and he is pretty slow. Joyce just doesn't have that much power though.

I am going to say Zhang, Ruiz. Someone like that. But why would Usyk fight these guys? There is nothing in it for him apart from risk. All he wants to do is beat Fury again and then go down to CW.

[PRINCEKOOL]

The Heavyweight nobody wants to talk about in regards 'To him fighting both Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Uysk. That fighter is Anthony Joshua'.

Anthony Joshua is the only double jeopardy threat in the Heavyweight Division i.e Joshua skill for skill is rated in the top-3 most proven component pure boxers, and there is a definitive debate that since Fury vs Uysk I? Anthony Joshua can be rated as the second best pure boxer in the division behind Oleksandr Uysk.

Joshua can also be rated as one of the most proven, destructive, offensive and power punchers in the division.

There is no other Heavyweight currently active in the sport, who has that combination of proven attributes at World and Elite level 'Anthony Joshua is the only double jeopardy threat'.

Anthony Joshua is still stylistically the most difficult fight, for the highest number of top level Heavyweights in the sport. If the business opportunity was the same for all potential match ups in the division that could happen, and? All top level Heavyweights where posed the question, which fighters they most wanted to fight? Very few Heavyweights would be raising their arm to fight Anthony Joshua.

Lets all be honest, they would be picking Uysk, Fury, Zhang, Dubois, Wilder and so on 'Very few would be picking Anthony Joshua'.

People right now in the boxing game are ether being nice to Joshua, or they don't want to talk about him 'Because they all know, if Joshua fully utilizes all of his power. Then it is potentially over'.

It is over for whoever he fights, Tyson Fury, Oleksandr Uysk, Daniel Dubois, Zhilei Zhang, Joseph Parker 'It will be over for all of them'.

It is not about Anthony Joshua being at his peak, or bringing back the old Joshua 'It is about Joshua combining his attributes, and he has attributes which make him the only double jeopardy threat in the division at a high level'.

Tyson Fury is not double jeopardy threat, neither is Oleksandr Uysk stylistically 'They are great pure boxers skill for skill, but their offensive capabilities in my opinion are not in the same stratosphere of operation as Anthony Joshua when he unleashes the power'.

Nobody here would be surprised if Daniel Dubois does not make it past the mid-way point vs Anthony Joshua 'And we can go through the entire top level Heavyweights, and it is a similar perspective that we can all envision if they was to ever fight Anthony Joshua'.

Zhilei Zhang, Joseph Parker, whoever you want to pick 'It is exactly the same situation, nobody would be surprised'.

I would state that Anthony Joshua's critics are aware of this, that is why? If you take a look around, the narrative which surrounds Joshua has completely altered over the past year. There is not much conviction from those that used to incessantly mock him, and try their best to promote the narratives that he is petrified of all these other Heavyweights. Now the situation is that people just don't want to talk about Joshua.

Note: Tyson Fury is actually the fighter I rate as the second most likely Heavyweight to beat Oleksandr Uysk. I have spoken in great detail about why I believe both Fury and Joshua can beat Uysk, this is mainly because I believe Fury and Joshua have a more vast operational window at Heavyweight than Uysk.

Operational window i.e Tyson Fury could so easily morph his physique up above 270 + pounds, and completely altered his style and tactics. The Anthony Joshua we have witnessed in his recent fights, has morphed his physique and his style compared to when he last fought Uysk.

The reason why fighters like Fury and Joshua able to do this, is because they have fought their entire careers at Heavyweight 'Which is a open class division. Fighters in a open class division compared to lower weight class fighters, have a lot more space for creativity and ingenuity in terms of preparation. And because of this? Over time they build a more vast operational window, they gather more experience of specific styles of preparation and fighting'.

Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'Is projected for December 21st 2024'. There is completely nothing stopping Tyson Fury, from contacting Dorian Yates and saying 'Listen, I want you to train me, subject me to the same stimulus and exercises you used during the 90's which lead you to winning Six Mr Olympia titles'.

If Tyson Fury wants to fly into a base camp at Mount Everest, and climb Mount Everest as apart of his training 'Tyson Fury can incorporate all of those training methodologies into his preparation for the Uysk rematch'.

Heavyweight fighters in the Heavyweight Division, have the ability to prepare in a much more vast operational window 'Because they don't have to make a weight limit, be concerned with check weigh in's or rehydration clauses' A open class weight division, is the most pure and raw form of competition within boxing'.

Fighters in the lower weight classes, operate in a more narrow constraint competitive environment 'Over the years this does not really build a vast operational window, in the same way a Heavyweight fighter has the ability to'.

Oleksandr Uysk in that regard does not have the same type of documented experience as Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua 'They have more altercations in their game than Oleksandr Uysk, that we have actually witnessed them applying throughout their careers'.

Oleksandr Uysk is a great fighter, he is the most accomplished active fighter in the sport of boxing 'Uysk's wins over both Fury and Joshua are pound for pound, the greatest feats of achievement in the sport of boxing in the last 15 years'. But his best attributes as a fighter, only allow him to win a certain way at Heavyweight 'Uysk is ether out skilling his opponents, or out lasting them with his endurance'.

If you compare Oleksandr Uysk to fighters such as David Haye and Evander Holyfield 'Those former cruiserweights, even as Heavyweights. There best attributes as fighters, allowed them to win fights in a more sensational, brutal and at times conclusive fashion than Uysk'.

David Haye had immense power, speed, athleticism, and his defensive capabilities at his peak were superior to Uysk. Evander Holyfield had extreme levels of brute strength, endurance. Combined with a high invulnerability to physical attacks, and some sort of healing factor.

If people understand what I am saying? Oleksandr Uysk at Heavyweight has never been that type of fighter or threat 'Stylistically if Uysk is embroiled in rematches and trilogy's with fighters like Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua those fights are always going to be potentially extremely difficult fights. Especially if Fury and Joshua are in solid condition'.

To conclude: Anthony Joshua upon analysis is stylistically the most difficult fight in the division for Oleksandr Uysk 'And I would rate Tyson Fury as the second most likely fighter to beat Oleksandr Uysk' etc.

[Toffee]

Well Fury has told us the answer. It was too easy for him to beat Usyk and that's why he didn't.

So I guess it's going to be Tyson Fury.

[Willow The Wisp]

The Heavyweight nobody wants to talk about in regards 'To him fighting both Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Uysk. That fighter is Anthony Joshua'.

Anthony Joshua is the only double jeopardy threat in the Heavyweight Division i.e Joshua skill for skill is rated in the top-3 most proven component pure boxers, and there is a definitive debate that since Fury vs Uysk I? Anthony Joshua can be rated as the second best pure boxer in the division behind Oleksandr Uysk.

Joshua can also be rated as one of the most proven, destructive, offensive and power punchers in the division.

There is no other Heavyweight currently active in the sport, who has that combination of proven attributes at World and Elite level 'Anthony Joshua is the only double jeopardy threat'.

Anthony Joshua is still stylistically the most difficult fight, for the highest number of top level Heavyweights in the sport. If the business opportunity was the same for all potential match ups in the division that could happen, and? All top level Heavyweights where posed the question, which fighters they most wanted to fight? Very few Heavyweights would be raising their arm to fight Anthony Joshua.

Lets all be honest, they would be picking Uysk, Fury, Zhang, Dubois, Wilder and so on 'Very few would be picking Anthony Joshua'.

People right now in the boxing game are ether being nice to Joshua, or they don't want to talk about him 'Because they all know, if Joshua fully utilizes all of his power. Then it is potentially over'.

It is over for whoever he fights, Tyson Fury, Oleksandr Uysk, Daniel Dubois, Zhilei Zhang, Joseph Parker 'It will be over for all of them'.

It is not about Anthony Joshua being at his peak, or bringing back the old Joshua 'It is about Joshua combining his attributes, and he has attributes which make him the only double jeopardy threat in the division at a high level'.

Tyson Fury is not double jeopardy threat, neither is Oleksandr Uysk stylistically 'They are great pure boxers skill for skill, but their offensive capabilities in my opinion are not in the same stratosphere of operation as Anthony Joshua when he unleashes the power'.

Nobody here would be surprised if Daniel Dubois does not make it past the mid-way point vs Anthony Joshua 'And we can go through the entire top level Heavyweights, and it is a similar perspective that we can all envision if they was to ever fight Anthony Joshua'.

Zhilei Zhang, Joseph Parker, whoever you want to pick 'It is exactly the same situation, nobody would be surprised'.

I would state that Anthony Joshua's critics are aware of this, that is why? If you take a look around, the narrative which surrounds Joshua has completely altered over the past year. There is not much conviction from those that used to incessantly mock him, and try their best to promote the narratives that he is petrified of all these other Heavyweights. Now the situation is that people just don't want to talk about Joshua.

Note: Tyson Fury is actually the fighter I rate as the second most likely Heavyweight to beat Oleksandr Uysk. I have spoken in great detail about why I believe both Fury and Joshua can beat Uysk, this is mainly because I believe Fury and Joshua have a more vast operational window at Heavyweight than Uysk.

Operational window i.e Tyson Fury could so easily morph his physique up above 270 + pounds, and completely altered his style and tactics. The Anthony Joshua we have witnessed in his recent fights, has morphed his physique and his style compared to when he last fought Uysk.

The reason why fighters like Fury and Joshua able to do this, is because they have fought their entire careers at Heavyweight 'Which is a open class division. Fighters in a open class division compared to lower weight class fighters, have a lot more space for creativity and ingenuity in terms of preparation. And because of this? Over time they build a more vast operational window, they gather more experience of specific styles of preparation and fighting'.

Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Uysk II 'Is projected for December 21st 2024'. There is completely nothing stopping Tyson Fury, from contacting Dorian Yates and saying 'Listen, I want you to train me, subject me to the same stimulus and exercises you used during the 90's which lead you to winning Six Mr Olympia titles'.

If Tyson Fury wants to fly into a base camp at Mount Everest, and climb Mount Everest as apart of his training 'Tyson Fury can incorporate all of those training methodologies into his preparation for the Uysk rematch'.

Heavyweight fighters in the Heavyweight Division, have the ability to prepare in a much more vast operational window 'Because they don't have to make a weight limit, be concerned with check weigh in's or rehydration clauses' A open class weight division, is the most pure and raw form of competition within boxing'.

Fighters in the lower weight classes, operate in a more narrow constraint competitive environment 'Over the years this does not really build a vast operational window, in the same way a Heavyweight fighter has the ability to'.

Oleksandr Uysk in that regard does not have the same type of documented experience as Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua 'They have more altercations in their game than Oleksandr Uysk, that we have actually witnessed them applying throughout their careers'.

Oleksandr Uysk is a great fighter, he is the most accomplished active fighter in the sport of boxing 'Uysk's wins over both Fury and Joshua are pound for pound, the greatest feats of achievement in the sport of boxing in the last 15 years'. But his best attributes as a fighter, only allow him to win a certain way at Heavyweight 'Uysk is ether out skilling his opponents, or out lasting them with his endurance'.

If you compare Oleksandr Uysk to fighters such as David Haye and Evander Holyfield 'Those former cruiserweights, even as Heavyweights. There best attributes as fighters, allowed them to win fights in a more sensational, brutal and at times conclusive fashion than Uysk'.

David Haye had immense power, speed, athleticism, and his defensive capabilities at his peak were superior to Uysk. Evander Holyfield had extreme levels of brute strength, endurance. Combined with a high invulnerability to physical attacks, and some sort of healing factor.

If people understand what I am saying? Oleksandr Uysk at Heavyweight has never been that type of fighter or threat 'Stylistically if Uysk is embroiled in rematches and trilogy's with fighters like Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua those fights are always going to be potentially extremely difficult fights. Especially if Fury and Joshua are in solid condition'.

To conclude: Anthony Joshua upon analysis is stylistically the most difficult fight in the division for Oleksandr Uysk 'And I would rate Tyson Fury as the second most likely fighter to beat Oleksandr Uysk' etc.

Very interesting ideas Prince.
Although the public appetite for Usyk - Joshua III might make it something less than a "Super Fight" given the texture and outcome of their first two meetings, the resurgent Joshua must certainly rank as one of the best opponents for him.

Agit Kabayel is another excellent choice.
Long the sleeper in the division, he has really showcassd the wares in recent fight, and he my very well prove to be the man with the formula. His body attacks are lethal and that could be just what the doctor ordered.

Jared Anderson is yet to really arrive, and is still at a point when his doubters have plenty of ammo against him. But if he happens to execute the Michael Hunter plan and dump Bakole impressively, most of that criticism will just blow away.

Andy Ruiz Jr is dangerous when motivated to win, and although it seems that he's been around forever, he's still pretty young. Power, fast hands and good technical skills, if he's switched on, he's a handful for anyone; ask Joshua.

Bakhodir Jalolov, the big Uzbek, is coming. He sure looks the part in the early going. But Usyk isn't put off by size.
Whether you're 6-9 260 or 7-9 500, Usyk is well aware that your target areas begin with your feet on the ground.


People love to relish being in the moment. They love to feel as if they're bearing witness to something timeless.
It's the nature of the beast.

I just came across a post saying "if nobody beats him (among 6 top current Heavyweights), he's goat alongside Ali".

I don't know about all that, let alone the prospects of Usyk having that many fights remaining, but the next leg of the journey begins with the rematch with Fury in December.

[crimsonfalcon07]

It's heavyweight... Anyone can beat anyone if the stars align and they land the right shot. The only guys who are truly unbeatable are the ones who don't fight.

[Atypicalbrit]

[QUOTE=PRINCEKOOL;n32302292]The Heavyweight nobody wants to talk about in regards 'To him fighting both Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Uysk. That fighter is Anthony Joshua'.

Oh boy