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  • Loque-san
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    #21
    Loses to Pacquiao.
    Close fights against JMM and Castillo.
    Stops Corrales.

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    • Smash
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      #22
      is it not a bit odd comparing an email belt holder and not much else to the greats of times gone by, very very odd stuff

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #23
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza

        Well Pacquaio's win over Diaz is pretty much as good as any win Tank has at LW which says a lot but obviously we're not going to judge Pacquaio as a fighter off his LW resume alone. Do the fight at 140, Tank who struggled with Barrios vs the Pacquaio who polaxed Hatton in 2 rounds. How does that go? Not well for Tank I'd imagine.

        I think Pacquaio's defense isn't bad at all, it's not great. Tank's is no better. Tank isn't even close to Pacqauio's level he gets absoutley battered from pillar to post.
        Dan. Diaz was not peak Diaz at that point.

        Well then fight at 140 or above would obviously favor Manny who is more proven.

        His defense was not good during this time. He was almost all offense.

        Naw.

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          #24
          Originally posted by LilGizmo

          Manny definitely stops him, I truly don't see Tank surviving 12 rds with Manny.

          At 135, I say Marquez outboxes him, don't think he stops Tank, but I see Marquez outboxing Tank.
          JMM is one of the best combination punchers of all times. Dude new how to put combinations together. Im a Pacquiao fight and I dislike JMM but I cant deny the truth either. I'm 100% sure JMM would stop Tank.

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            #25
            Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
            Manny would likely blitz him.

            I think he knocks Marquez out tbh. Marquez always used to get clipped in fights. I think that’s a difficult style matchup for JMM.

            Corrales was a big lightweight, could Tank handle that sort of size? I’m 50/50 on that one.

            I’d pick Tank to beat Castillo.
            He got clipped, never out, if he is knocking someone out is manny, he has a history of been tagged and not waking up.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #26
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              Dan. Diaz was not peak Diaz at that point.

              Well then fight at 140 or above would obviously favor Manny who is more proven.

              His defense was not good during this time. He was almost all offense.

              Naw.
              Yeah I mean Diaz is an average fighter any way but who has Tank beat at LW? I'd say just Martin would be better.

              They've both had 1 fight at 140. Infact Tank has two at 140, Barrios and Garcia, so it's not like it's an unfair comparison.

              Pacquaio is more proven at 126, 130 and 140. They're pretty much the same at 135. This is about them having a fight not who has the better resume. We can use their other fights at other weight classes to judge them.

              Pacquaio's defense was fine at 135. He's not a defensive wizard but he certainly doesn't have a terrible defense. I wouldn't say Tank's is better in fact it's probably worse. Getting hit by ATG's like Morales and Marquez doesn't make your defense bad. Both of those two batter Tank aswell more than likely. At worst they land a alot of punches on him.

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                #27
                Originally posted by LilGizmo

                There is no denying his power is real, but all the guys I listed also had power at 135, can Tank take the pressure from Corrales/Castillo.

                Can he handle the accurate power punches from Marquez? Marquez was able to keep Manny honest and time his speed and left hand, can Tank adapt to someone like Marquez, I don't think so.

                Can Tank handle Manny's awkward style/speed and power at 135? I think Manny beats him quite easily.
                They had power at 135, but not Tank power.

                I'd favor Manny over Tank and Marquez would give him hell, but everyone else's aggression would work toward Tank's advantage.

                Tank has a chin, very good ring IQ and great handspeed. Folks aren't happy with his level of opposition, but you can clearly see his talent level.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Gary Coleman

                  They had power at 135, but not Tank power.

                  I'd favor Manny over Tank and Marquez would give him hell, but everyone else's aggression would work toward Tank's advantage.

                  Tank has a chin, very good ring IQ and great handspeed. Folks aren't happy with his level of opposition, but you can clearly see his talent level.
                  Tank power...you are doing the wilder thing all over again. a vacuum was left when wilder was exposed and I guess tank is going to fill it as the new biggest puncher ever, against soft competition of course.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by daggum

                    Tank power...you are doing the wilder thing all over again. a vacuum was left when wilder was exposed and I guess tank is going to fill it as the new biggest puncher ever, against soft competition of course.
                    Apples and oranges. Wilder was a poor boxer.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      Why?

                      Manny had one LW fight. Diaz when he was barely atop 10 LW. He was set up for the easy Manny win and had to be given an MD by Bob in his fight with Motalvo or Montaldo right before.

                      This was after the questionable SD over JMM, which many thought he lost, and before ODH.

                      His offense is spectacular no doubt. But this was the period where his defense was very troublesome.

                      Tank’s offense would make this a much tougher fight imo.
                      Diaz was ranked #2, barely top 10 lol. You were just raving over tank fighting the #5 guy! And in reality diaz should have been the champ since he best Santa Cruz who was robbed against casamayor.

                      Given a MD? He easily beat Montano. Are you implying a robbery? Here's a quote from an article written about the fight "The final judges’ scores were 95-95, 99-91 and 97-93. I personally had Diaz winning every round of the fight and couldn’t see any rounds that were even slightly close."

                      ​Diaz was not a great fighter but he is way better than martin. Martin has no claim to being the champ at 135 like Diaz had. Martin has no top 10 wins like Diaz had.

                      You have your agenda that's clear. Diaz was setup for an easy Manny win...yet Diaz was better than literally anyone tank has ever fought(that wasn't drained) so by your own logic if Manny diaz was an easy setup fight then all of tanks fights are easy setup fights for him to win...right? Logically...



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