Comments Thread For: Tank, Benavidez and the Ongoing Search for a Post-Floyd American Boxing Superstar

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  • billeau2
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    #41
    Perhaps the expectation for what a superstar is has changed. Do we even know what a boxing superstar will look like in the next years to come? given how social media affects every perception. You have very pedestrian individuals soaring because of social media... The paul brothers for example. Neither guy has really fought a top level opponent in a division, yet they sell fights. You do have some carry over... Ryan is a handsome kid and has appeal, it makes sense, De La Hoya had that same appeal.

    Do fans even want a fighter who challenges the best, and challenges himself? In the days gone by such fighters were embraced by working class individuals, of all ethnic variations. Even late 90's early 2000 I could sit down in a Messican bar in the Mission and have a great time watching the likes of Quartey, Trinidad and De La Hoya fighting... That is quickly fading. For one thing you can't watch the fights in a bar.

    Tank does not really have much magnetism. He is a protected fighter who has talent that will be squandered.

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    • Poopdick
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      Martin isn’t B or C level comp.

      Did I post or suggest he would be against Shakur? Tank will likely not be favored because Shakur is the top LW, Tank is #2 or #3 while Martin is #5.

      The comment about Floyd was in response to the post I quoted. It wasn’t about Tank.

      You are ranting and raving without reading. You look like a buffoon.
      dude you are goofy as can be. Martin arguably lost against guy Shakur fighting next lol. stop just stop it. enjoy the guy you like, it's OK.

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #43
        Originally posted by Poopdick

        dude you are goofy as can be. Martin arguably lost against guy Shakur fighting next lol. stop just stop it. enjoy the guy you like, it's OK.
        This is where a mature adult admits they read the post wrong. You commented without reading the post I responded to.

        It’s ok you made a mistake.

        That is your opinion. He ended up winning. Pulling out a tougher than expected fight is what good boxers do.

        Stop what? Pointing out where Martin is ranked by the TBRB?

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #44
          Originally posted by Pac=Duran

          Absolutely.

          Nobody would be giving American fighters any **** if they didn't pull all this Aside Bside fraud behaviour.

          If you want to be a star you have to beat top fighter. Simple as
          Dude this is just not factual.

          Leonard, Fishnets, Canelo were stars before they fought or defeated a top boxer.

          You hate the fact Tank draws huge numbers while the guys you like do not.

          lmfao.

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            #45
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            This is where a mature adult admits they read the post wrong. You commented without reading the post I responded to.

            It’s ok you made a mistake.

            That is your opinion. He ended up winning. Pulling out a tougher than expected fight is what good boxers do.

            Stop what? Pointing out where Martin is ranked by the TBRB?
            stop acting like tank fights top competition in real life, not #5 in rankings, and then act like Shakur needs fight all these other guys to deserve a shot at his dorky midget ass

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            • Pac=Duran
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              #46
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              Dude this is just not factual.

              Leonard, Fishnets, Canelo were stars before they fought or defeated a top boxer.

              You hate the fact Tank draws huge numbers while the guys you like do not.

              lmfao.
              Not real star though. A fraudulent star.

              The point is its all bull**** until you've prove yourself and anyone that cares before they have is a ret ard

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              • daggum
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                #47
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                He has fought good enough opposition that TRBR has him at #5.

                People like you that are slightly above casuals probably haven’t heard of him or his opposition.

                As such you are not the best judges of a boxer or his resume.
                not really. i would say he is ranked that highly based on being american and being on peoples screens more than most other guys. ill still give tank credit for beating a top 5 guy but when you see an easy mark you take them down, baldomir style.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Poopdick

                  stop acting like tank fights top competition in real life, not #5 in rankings, and then act like Shakur needs fight all these other guys to deserve a shot at his dorky midget ass
                  At no point did I post that so to suggest I am acting like it is completely dishonest.

                  At no point did I say or act like Shakur needs to fight anyone to fight Tank.

                  Dude, just admit you made a mistake. Now you’re making up stuff I didn’t post.

                  You can’t change the fact the independent rankings most posters go by has Martin #5 at LW. This seems to make you angry because it shows your criticism of Tank is a bit over exaggerated.

                  Should he have fought Loma and Shakur by now, absolutely. Does that make his resume garbage, of course not.

                  You don’t like Tank, ok. Don’t use that hatred to rank Martin as an opponent. That is weak.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Pac=Duran

                    Not real star though. A fraudulent star.

                    The point is its all bull**** until you've prove yourself and anyone that cares before they have is a ret ard
                    Not a real star. Lmfao. You just make no sense.

                    No it isn’t. Some can earn big, like Tank, some are just small time, like Loma.

                    People don’t just like boxers because of who they fight. A casual like you wouldn’t understand that.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by daggum

                      not really. i would say he is ranked that highly based on being american and being on peoples screens more than most other guys. ill still give tank credit for beating a top 5 guy but when you see an easy mark you take them down, baldomir style.
                      Of course you would because you have no Integrity or credibility when it comes to ranking boxers.

                      As other posters have noted multiple times, when it’s a guy you like- GGG for example- you discuss only where the boxer is ranked. When it’s an American boxer, in particular a black boxer, you always question the opponent rankings and then try to diminish them.

                      That is so incredibly biased. But it is who you are.

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