Was Floyd Mayweather Jr. clean (PEDs'free) during his era?

[champion4ever]

On the surface, I say yes because everyone must be given the presumption of innocence. It was never proven that he cheated or popped dirty for doping.

However, the appearance of those IV fluids at his home does appear dubious. In addition, it makes the reasonable boxing fan very curious as to why?

Yes, I know he received a (TUE) Therapeutic Use Exemption for it. However, it came from USADA and not the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Likewise, the content of those IV fluids appear very sketchy as well.

He claimed they were saline and vitamins. However, we will never know. Was he really rehydrating or was he detoxing by flushing and rinsing any potential trace amounts of PEDS left in his body?

[Roadblock]

They do it all pretty well at the top level so if you are heavy boned as well then I wonder the lack of pop, its not even mediocre type of power.

Man I dont even know what to tell you, at top level if you dont have power you generally have skills to compensate for that, the mind is the biggest influencer guys that really want to punch hard are feet planted and generally punch harder than guys that want to move and use skill, I think its pretty obvious I cant comprehend you cant see it.

[Roadblock]

On the surface, I say yes because everyone must be given the presumption of innocence. It was never proven that he cheated or popped dirty for doping.

However, the appearance of those IV fluids at his home does appear dubious. In addition, it makes the reasonable boxing fan very curious as to why?

Yes, I know he received a (TUE) Therapeutic Use Exemption for it. However, it came from USADA and not the Nevada State Athletic Commission. Likewise, the content of those IV fluids appear very sketchy as well.

He claimed they were saline and vitamins. However, we will never know. Was he really rehydrating or was he detoxing by flushing and rinsing any potential trace amounts of PEDS left in his body?

We will never know but the medical people do, and the negative test from the day before meant what PEDS were flushed the day after with an amount that couldnt flush it, I wonder why Armstrong was taking up to 2000ml when he could take less than half to do it according to the experts in here, so many things don't add up, Ive given a bag of fluids which is a 1000ml to a 65lb Greyhound for dehydration because he got overall excited on the 2hr trip to the track and dropped 4lb below his race weight.

In this day of internet knowledge base why doesn't or hasn't anybody presented real data that supports 750ml masking PEDs in a 150lb man, it makes no sense from what I know and seen using Iv fluids

[Haka]

Man I dont even know what to tell you, at top level if you dont have power you generally have skills to compensate for that, the mind is the biggest influencer guys that really want to punch hard are feet planted and generally punch harder than guys that want to move and use skill, I think its pretty obvious I cant comprehend you cant see it.

The only thing I can't comprehend is Haney fighting at 140 using IVs going to 165 and Floyd who fought at 154 using IVs only going to max 155. Looking purely at body size comparing Cotto Maidana Floyd Haney I don't see 155.

So if you are not going to 165, then why use the IV ? I think it is minimum 162 that Floyd weighed before the weight cut.

[Roadblock]

The only thing I can't comprehend is Haney fighting at 140 using IVs going to 165 and Floyd who fought at 154 using IVs only going to max 155. Looking purely at body size comparing Cotto Maidana Floyd Haney I don't see 155.

Even with all the variables given to you on a plate, you are back at the start like the plate was empty.

I don't understand the way you connect the dots, its like a wall between two dots and you just go around like its not there, you said it all when you said throw out logic.

[Haka]

Even with all the variables given to you on a plate, you are back at the start like the plate was empty.

I don't understand the way you connect the dots, its like a wall between two dots and you just go around like its not there, you said it all when you said throw out logic.

Lets say Floyd was 162 before the weight cut, and GGG was 170-172 before the cut. Then knowing what we knowing about the sport in smaller man taking on bigger opponents and winning, is it considered a duck ?

[Haka]

Even with all the variables given to you on a plate, you are back at the start like the plate was empty.

I don't understand the way you connect the dots, its like a wall between two dots and you just go around like its not there, you said it all when you said throw out logic.

BTW look at the Floyd-Canelo fight and look at the Haney - Prograis fight and tell me Floyd is 10lbs lighter than Haney.

[Roadblock]

Lets say Floyd was 162 before the weight cut, and GGG was 170-172 before the cut. Then knowing what we knowing about the sport in smaller man taking on bigger opponents and winning, is it considered a duck ?

Floyds not 162 before his weight cut, the data available proves that. I don't know what GGG is before his weight cuts Id have to research it.

No two fighters are the same as other fighters so what others do doesn't mean they all can do, Duran went to MW which is very rare for a LW it would be silly to think all LWs can go to MW, your idea of throwning blankets over them is flawed, Floyd coming from 130 says a lot about his frame, knowing that he has never weighed higher than 152 on fight night coincides with having that 130 frame, once youre a mature man your frame doesn't get heavier it actually gets lighter with aging.

Are you going to keep jumping from one non-logical question to another or address the points as we go?

[Roadblock]

BTW look at the Floyd-Canelo fight and look at the Haney - Prograis fight and tell me Floyd is 10lbs lighter than Haney.

BTW youre doing it again, you cant see weight you can only guess it, if I lined up 100 guys and stood them in pairs and you had to pick the weight I would bet you are so far out it would be comical.

[Haka]

Floyds not 162 before his weight cut, the data available proves that. I don't know what GGG is before his weight cuts Id have to research it.

No two fighters are the same as other fighters so what others do doesn't mean they all can do, Duran went to MW which is very rare for a LW it would be silly to think all LWs can go to MW, your idea of throwning blankets over them is flawed, Floyd coming from 130 says a lot about his frame, knowing that he has never weighed higher than 152 on fight night coincides with having that 130 frame, once youre a mature man your frame doesn't get heavier it actually gets lighter with aging.

Are you going to keep jumping from one non-logical question to another or address the points as we go?

So now you talking about Frame, but Manny who comes from the lowest of lowest weights had to rematch Cotto at 154 and you consider that a duck from Manny ?