Who do you rank higher? Evander Holyfield or Oleksandr Usyk. SERIOUS DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD.

[kafkod]

That is fine argument for potential match ups. ATG and GOAT require accolades in the bag not the potential to get them.

Tyson's strongest argument is in his belts and times as champion not who he beat or how big he is ... that is just my opinion but I do know for sure one thing is definitely true. Fury's level can't be measured by his juxtaposition to Bowe ffs.

Folks ain't even talking about it, yet, but Fury is the man who did the leg work for Usyk to be able to pick up all the belts at once. You can't frame the story about how the 25 years with no true champion came to an end without that story being a Tyson Fury story. That is his greatness, imo, I could be wrong but I am real ****ing confident Bowe's got **** all nothing to do with how great or lack of Fury is.

Nah, that was down to AJ, not Fury.

The titles Fury won from Wlad were fragmented when he "retired" in 2016. It was AJ who unified them again in 3 separate fights against 3 different opponents. AJ then kept those belts together by fighting all his mandos.

If it wasn't for AJ's commitment to keeping the belts unified he would never have fought Usyk as a mando and Usyk would not have been able to win 3 world title belts in one fight.

[Willow The Wisp]

Hahaha haha

Amerifrauds live in a country with a 70% obesity rate and can't imagine a guy filling out 60 pounds from the age of 19 to nearly 40 yo

Talking crap about the boss again?

[billeau2]

Bowe was 29 years old when he fought Golota.

Do you actually know anything about him .. apart from his name and the fact that he is a black American HW who fought in the 1990s?

Is that all you need to know to rate him higher than Fury and Usyk?

Usyk, btw, beat the 2 best heavyweights of his era in his mid - late 30s.

You have to watch tape... Watch Bowe at his best.

[JimRaynor]

Holyfield was 40 years old when he lost to Toney

He also lost to Moorer right before he had to retire with heart problems.

Again, these things have to be put into context.

The Holyfield of '90-'92 was a whole different animal

Usyk strugged with Derek Chisora & Chazz Witherspoon, who AS A PRIME FIGHTER.

Styles make fights, and these were introductory heavyweight bouts for Usyk. I'm one of Holyfields biggest fans, but even he had his own troubles with lesser fighters, notably Bert Cooper who dropped him and Ray Mercer. Many times fighters will look incredible against tough opponents and much worse against lesser opposition.

[Dolor]

Holyfield. Usyk couldn’t carry Holy’s spit bucket.

Evan Fields' juice bucket you mean?

[SUBZER0ED]

Styles make fights, and these were introductory heavyweight bouts for Usyk. I'm one of Holyfields biggest fans, but even he had his own troubles with lesser fighters, notably Bert Cooper who dropped him and Ray Mercer. Many times fighters will look incredible against tough opponents and much worse against lesser opposition.

'Merciless' Ray Mercer was a lesser fighter?

[ilovemesomeboxing]

'Merciless' Ray Mercer was a lesser fighter?

I agree with Cooper obviously, but Mercer was the real deal.

[JimRaynor]

'Merciless' Ray Mercer was a lesser fighter?

In comparison to the elite heavyweights in the 90’s yeah he was. Don’t get me wrong, I loved Ray Mercers toughness and grit, but the best W on his resume is Tommy Morrison. Aside from that he lost to every top tier heavyweight of that era including an old Larry Holmes, a 18-9 Ferguson and scored a draw against the 7-9 Marion Wilson.

[QueensburyRules]

Interested in your opinions on this debate.

- - No discussion needed as Usyk 200 lb record immaculate: Olympic Gold, Pro 28-0, 16 KO, 11-0 Title Record with two Unified Ring Champ titles.

Field 26-10-2 with bukos title losses.

[Iron Fister]

*cough* steroids *cough*