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  • #21
    Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

    That's an easy accretion to qualify. Put Naoya Inoue, Dmitrii Bivol, Terence Crawford or David Benavidez in the ring with Dubois and see what happens.
    The better fighter will win, as they tend to.
    It's almost like weight classes exist for a reason and we're comparing skill levels, not size and strength.

    Don't be intentionally obtuse, you know exactly what people mean when they refer to skill level. Dubois and Hrgovic don't have an ounce of head movement, footwork, defense, technique, or intelligence between them. They both just lumbered toward each other throwing 1-2s until one of the couldn't anymore.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by famicommander View Post

      It's almost like weight classes exist for a reason and we're comparing skill levels, not size and strength.

      Don't be intentionally obtuse, you know exactly what people mean when they refer to skill level. Dubois and Hrgovic don't have an ounce of head movement, footwork, defense, technique, or intelligence between them. They both just lumbered toward each other throwing 1-2s until one of the couldn't anymore.
      Ah ha. So then, why would there be a correlation between heavyweights and lack of skill level?

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      • #23
        Originally posted by famicommander View Post

        No, being able to beat up random bar guys does not make an impressive heavyweight contender.

        There's a reason Ngannou was able to stroll into boxing and drop and cut Fury in his debut. There's a reason Joshua and Wilder were able to fail out of two other sports each, then pick up boxing as 19 year olds and become Olympic medalists and world heavyweight titlists very quickly. If Wilder didn't fail at football and then basketball nobody would ever know about his punching power; if Joshua didn't fail at track and soccer, same story.

        It's because the skill level in the division is at a historic low right now.
        You're kidding, right? Ngannou boxed, boxed, boxed his way from Batié to Paris to the MMA Factory to MMA supremacy to Anthony Joshua's shoelaces.

        He's not so much an MMA goat who strolled into boxing as he is an amateur level boxer who strolled into MMA and knocked out the grapplers & kickers with a little cross training on defense.
        Nary a hint of Freestyle, BJJ, Muay Thai or Judo in his game.
        The Fury fight showed what happens when you don't put in some training and clown in the ring. The Joshua-Ngannou and Mercer-Silvia fights showed what happens when a 100 million dollar fighter and a 300k fighter try changing hats.

        And then, the insinuation that soccer snags all the best would-be fighters? As a yank I know little about that game aside from attending my granddaughter's games, but I beleive they...don't use their arms?

        Wow.
        Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 06-05-2024, 05:20 PM.

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