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  • #11
    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

    You are saying this because you are American.
    I have no allegiance to any country. I'm harder on Jared Anderson than anyone.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by famicommander View Post

      No, it's a 3 man division right now. The worst in men's boxing by a lot, except bridgerweight which I refuse to acknowledge.

      Usyk is #1 easily, Fury and Joshua are the only real contenders. Parker is on a decent run but I'll never forgive him for making me sit through those Fa, Chisora, Leapai fights and he basically turtled for 12 rounds against Joshua and didn't even try to win.

      Dubois and Zhang are awful, Kabayel is untested, Hrgovic and Anderson are both trash.
      I guess you enjoy more "elite" welterweights and "elite" middleweights doing nothing.

      Heavywieghts are maybe not great, but they ifght. Top 20 guys fight each other. That is all I want.

      I like boxing, not twitter-boxing.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

        I guess you enjoy more "elite" welterweights and "elite" middleweights doing nothing.

        Heavywieghts are maybe not great, but they ifght. Top 20 guys fight each other. That is all I want.

        I like boxing, not twitter-boxing.
        The top 10 fight each other in BKFC all the time, but the problem is they all suck. I still watch because I love all combat sports, but it's drastically lower skill level and it's easy to see that. Same thing at heavyweight. I'm still going to watch every televised fight and sometimes the fights are still fun anyway, but I'm not going to delude myself into pretending Daniel Dubois doesn't suck.
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        • #14
          Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post

          American hands typed this.

          You don't see a black American as champ so you discount everyone at the top now.

          Fury Usyk Zhang Joshua all would do well against pretty much anyone through history
          Agree.
          Agree.
          Agree.

          BTW, are you Brittish?

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          • #15
            Originally posted by famicommander View Post

            The top 10 fight each other in BKFC all the time, but the problem is they all suck. I still watch because I love all combat sports, but it's drastically lower skill level and it's easy to see that. Same thing at heavyweight. I'm still going to watch every televised fight and sometimes the fights are still fun anyway, but I'm not going to delude myself into pretending Daniel Dubois doesn't suck.
            Your an a s s but when you are right you are right!
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            • #16
              Originally posted by famicommander View Post

              The top 10 fight each other in BKFC all the time, but the problem is they all suck. I still watch because I love all combat sports, but it's drastically lower skill level and it's easy to see that. Same thing at heavyweight. I'm still going to watch every televised fight and sometimes the fights are still fun anyway, but I'm not going to delude myself into pretending Daniel Dubois doesn't suck.
              Ok, I would also love to watch elite welterweights. problem is, There are not any.

              Welterweight division is absolute trash now and nobody foights nobody, which is even worse.

              Again, I like boxing, which is why I will watch Babic -Fisher also. i don`t watch elite fights only.

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              • #17
                There are some younger guys coming up. Moses itauma is sensational if he manages to keep stable and able. But even some of the talented prospects have become fat, slovenly, unskilled and in love with their slow hitting power. Fabian Wardley was fantastic looking, with head movement, good instincts... The guy that showed up to his last fight? I did not recognize him lol. Torres might have the goods, just have not seen enough of him and what I have seen does not impress. jared Anderson seems disinterested.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

                  Ok, I would also love to watch elite welterweights. problem is, There are not any.

                  Welterweight division is absolute trash now and nobody foights nobody, which is even worse.

                  Again, I like boxing, which is why I will watch Babic -Fisher also. i don`t watch elite fights only.
                  Norman vs Santillan was an excellent fight and it just happened. Mediocre welterweights are still levels above most "top" heavyweights.
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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post

                    Ok, I would also love to watch elite welterweights. problem is, There are not any.

                    Welterweight division is absolute trash now and nobody foights nobody, which is even worse.

                    Again, I like boxing, which is why I will watch Babic -Fisher also. i don`t watch elite fights only.
                    Well Jake... the word elite does not mean all the flap jacks! Welterweight will always be a strong division because of biological reasons. It is a division where guys are strong enough, fast enough, to be savages... and still with a bit more weight be athletes in other sports... To be an elite Welter really means something, to be decent in a division where you are competing against the most typical athletic divisions in the world is not chopped liver either!

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by famicommander View Post

                      The top 10 fight each other in BKFC all the time, but the problem is they all suck. I still watch because I love all combat sports, but it's drastically lower skill level and it's easy to see that. Same thing at heavyweight. I'm still going to watch every televised fight and sometimes the fights are still fun anyway, but I'm not going to delude myself into pretending Daniel Dubois doesn't suck.
                      That's an easy accretion to qualify. Put Naoya Inoue, Dmitrii Bivol, Terence Crawford or David Benavidez in the ring with Dubois and see what happens.
                      The better fighter will win, as they tend to.

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