Comments Thread For: Bill Haney Calls for Ryan Garcia to Be Hit With Lifetime Ban From Boxing

[A.B Counterhooks]

Cryan Fcked up big time but a lifetime ban is a ridiculous proposal ,oh yeah its Bill Haney ofc he wants that lol.

[Pac=Duran]

He's never getting a lifetime ban because that would be so out of step with how boxing punishes this. I wouldn't argue with a four-year ban, but I imagine it will be 18 months to two years.

The lack of a unified oversight for boxing means any ban is kind of weak regardless.

Why do people get banned for roids? Because it gives an unfair advantage to the roider where they could seriously injure their opponent.

Why is their weight classes? Exact same reason. Fraud Haney has been rehydrating to 30 pounds over the lightweight limit.

Roidy Ryan Garcia and Devin "The Fraud" Haney both should be banned forever from boxing

[Smash]

maybe think about peds a different way

just about everyone seems to me gets busted with 'trace amounts' apart from big baby ped machine miller & im sure there are others but would need to be researched and am way too lazy to do it now

so

then u have people saying that trace amounts are not beneficial to athletes so by implication they are saying it wasnt taken deliberately and even if it was it was of no benefit on the night whatsoever

therefore

why not allow trace amounts of ALL substances if they have NO BENEFIT to performance as is the argument i hear OVER and OVER again

just allow people to take what they want & why would they do it anyway if it has NO BENEFIT to them

or is it all just a load of crap and this no benefit thing is just an opinion backed up by some paper they read somewhere or just maybe had a dream about or who knows what

[Nightfall]

How can it be a lifetime ban when the likes of Jarrell Miller and Pascal were not given such bans over much more doping?

Knowingly or unknowingly taking a banned substance, all people remember is that Garcia whooped Haney badly.

Actually know they don’t remember because because caught on the steroids has taken over. It’s the talk of the sport. Cryan has phucked his career with the asterisk

[IronDanHamza]

maybe think about peds a different way

just about everyone seems to me gets busted with 'trace amounts' apart from big baby ped machine miller & im sure there are others but would need to be researched and am way too lazy to do it now

so

then u have people saying that trace amounts are not beneficial to athletes so by implication they are saying it wasnt taken deliberately and even if it was it was of no benefit on the night whatsoever

therefore

why not allow trace amounts of ALL substances if they have NO BENEFIT to performance as is the argument i hear OVER and OVER again

just allow people to take what they want & why would they do it anyway if it has NO BENEFIT to them

or is it all just a load of crap and this no benefit thing is just an opinion backed up by some paper they read somewhere or just maybe had a dream about or who knows what

Well yes, that is where me and Derek have disagreed in the past.

Sure, the trace amount in Ryan's system isn't beneficial on paper, but the issue is, how do we know it's not that low because the drug is being masked? That is more than possible.

The issue is, and always will be, is we don't know. All we can go off is what's on the test result. Which is, trace amounts.

He's not wrong about Osterine, despite it's benefits, it would be a terribly poor choice of drug to chose from with the options out there. The risk/reward seems like a totally illogical choice. It's similar to Conor Benn's case with Clomid (Which isn't even really a PED in all honesty)

I actually don't think allowing trace amounts is the worst idea, because that would eliminate genuine contamination cases, which does happen. But it wouldn't eradicate the problem either so is there any point?

The drugs and people behind the drugs are always going to be ahead of the testing, that's the issue. It's a very sophisticated field. It's too complex of an issue, way too many constant moving parts with the end of it being WE WILL NEVER KNOW if any of these fighters truly cheated on purpose. Only they do and maybe their team do. Because there's no way to prove it, so even if Garcia is genuinely innocent, no one will ever truly know.

And then, all we have is expert opinion. I've got mine, Derek has his. I'm sure Victor Conte has his. But none of us know, it's just an informed opinion.

[IronDanHamza]

"Ostarine has the most human research of any SARM. It is incredibly versitile, whether cutting or bulking, and side effects are very mild at low-moderate doses when used sensibly. If you've never used any SARMs before, this would be our first choice."

this youtuber is saying ostarine is not great, its ok but not the best choice BUT thats not what everyone says, there are lots out there saying it is great to take

https://www.predatornutrition.com/ar...st-sarms-stack

What he means is, there are way better options with way less risk of getting caught. All SARMS are effective, they do exactly what they say on the tin (Modulate your Androgen Receptors)

I mean, Clenbuterol would have been the way better option, the same drug that Canelo got caught with. That does the same things as Osterine but is way more potent and effective. And has a built in excuse with contaminated meat.

It doesn't really make sense for Garcia to use Osterine, but, does that mean he wasn't? No.

[Southpawology]

Bill haney paid officials to have devins loss in mexico removed. Bill haney is one of those dads that holds their son back in school 3 years so they have a huge physical advantage. Clown.

[JTfloyd]

the Haneys are more fragile than Devin's chin.

[GhostofDempsey]

This family doesn’t realize how badly they are handling this loss. Embarrassing.

[thebrownbomber_]

You sound like you lost you boyfriends rent money on the match…Haneys a cheater himself using IV’s and working with Conte…

Making things up as we speak. Boxing fans’ intelligence levels are definitely on par with their socioeconomic status.