How did Alycia Baumgardner get off scot free?

[Smash]

So your issue is did the lab 'lie' or was incompetent.. rather than the actual test being clean?


These are different questions then..

when vada are testing u they are in charge, they follow u to the toilet and watch u pee, they are strict and u follow the rules, when u ring up some lab and say i want my hair tested, u are the boss, they follow what u say, they are basically the complete opposite of each other, there are so many things that can go wrong so many unknowns, the scope for foul play in the latter case is huge

[Superheavyweight]

Again.. you're saying foul play was involved.. rather than the result of the test.


What the test says is what it says either way..

[Superheavyweight]

With Canelo and Conor Benn we don't know if they're lying or their food was contaminated..


This blows people's minds because they either in camp guilty till proven innocent or innocent till proven guilty.. and the agnostic view challenges their sphere.


Each case is different..

[Smash]

Again.. you're saying foul play was involved.. rather than the result of the test.


What the test says is what it says either way..

there was foul play involved, peds detected by vada or legit authorities who carry out professional tests laid out in the rules of the sport

sending your hair off for analysis is not bound up in the rules of the sport, if it was they would include it in the tests they do, but they dont, they dont collect samples of athletes hair and nails, there are also issues with these tests as well at times

[IronDanHamza]

Well it backs up the claim if the hair sample stores as far back as 6 months etc.. in what is always 'adverse' findings etc.


The hair sample was clean..


It indirectly proves it.. a spectrum of cleanness or anti cleanness.


https://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...orld-title-win

It literally doesn’t prove anything.

It supports the argument that it COULD be due to contamination, because it’s consistent with the trace amounts found, which but it doesn’t prove it in any way.

Often times hair follicle tests are inaccurate. But even if they where, it still doesn’t prove it because it could easily be those trace levels due to masking agents, mistimed dosage, etc.

[Superheavyweight]

What are you saying?


It's only 90% accurate?

[Superheavyweight]

there was foul play involved, peds detected by vada or legit authorities who carry out professional tests laid out in the rules of the sport

sending your hair off for analysis is not bound up in the rules of the sport, if it was they would include it in the tests they do, but they dont, they dont collect samples of athletes hair and nails, there are also issues with these tests as well at times

According to you I mean..


The lab is illegitimate according to you..


It's up to the WBC to decide that etc..

[IronDanHamza]

What are you saying?


It's only 90% accurate?

I’m saying what I said, the readings are often inaccurate. So it’s not really the best of tools.

But either way, even if it was 100% accurate (which it’s not) it still doesn’t prove anything.

[Superheavyweight]

That's a bit of an oxymoron..


It's still a spectrum of cleanness..


It's like what does the positive test prove in the first place..

[IronDanHamza]

That's a bit of an oxymoron..


It's still a spectrum of cleanness..


It's like what does the positive test prove in the first place..

It’s not an oxymoron. It’s just a fact.

A positive test proves unequivocally that the person who had the positive test had PED’s in their system.