How did Alycia Baumgardner get off scot free?

[IronDanHamza]

The funny thing is the more u read about hair tests the more u might go hhhmm

just did a quick google search and this came up

"Simply put, studies show that the
darker your hair, the more of the drug you
have consumed will end up in your hair and
is picked up in a hair strand test"

https://www.forensic-testing.co.uk/w...-testing-1.pdf

i mean there are also issues with ginger hair with some substances if i remember with the canelo thing back then people had links as well lol

There's a place for hair samples, I guess it's more data, which isn't a bad thing.

But it doesn't prove anything. They're often inaccurate, or inconclusive.

If someone is using PED's and knows how to get around the tests then a hair sample won't be any help most of the time, outside of being very unlucky.

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Can you read? You are aware that you've ran like a coward in this thread for pages on end and flat out refused to address anything you've been challenged on? Again,you are like a Pigeon trying to play chess There isn't a more fitting example of that than yourself.

I don't think I ever said there isn't differences between Canelo's case and Conor Benn's case. There are differences in every PED case. They will never be totally identical.

I also never said a single thing about Ryan Garcia and Canelo's cases.

So what are you talking about and how does that change the fact that you have a clear and obvious double standard on this topic?

And for what it's worth, Victor Conte is 100% correct in what he's said there in that tweet in regards to Garcia's hair sample.

Is there a point you're trying to make sharing that tweet?

Don’t act dumb. You have been arguing (or more likely trolling) with me for months that Conor Benn’s situation was the same as Canelo’s when it clearly and obviously was not. Canelo’s excuse has always been more believable and he actually provided receipts that back up his reasoning.

And this was with me just knowing about the receipts…I had no idea that Canelo also could trace contaminated meat from two restaurants back to specific slaughterhouses.

Has Conor Benn been as open and transparent and forthcoming about where he bought contaminated eggs from? In a country which DOES NOT allow clomiphene to be used in egg production?

Be a man and admit you were wrong. Those are the next words I want to hear out of your mouth, otherwise just f-ck off. If you can’t acknowledge that then there is no point discussing or going back and forth with you over anything, and I will just ignore you from here on out.

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I had no idea that Canelo also could trace contaminated meat from two restaurants back to specific slaughterhouses.

not only that, the ginger sherlock holmes actually found the offending animal that he actually ate a very tasty bit out of

here she is just about to be herded in to her death, poor cow

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not only that, the ginger sherlock holmes actually found the offending animal that he actually ate a very tasty bit out of

here she is just about to be herded in to her death, poor cow

agriculture-animal-sick-cow-portrait-beef-meat-milk-kine-ear-tag-and-label-2BG1H23.jpg

At the end of the day Canelo’s explanation was believable and he provided evidence to support what he said. Which is all I have ever claimed.

I have also maintained that regardless of that he was still responsible for what he put in his body and still needed to face punishment.

[IronDanHamza]

Don’t act dumb. You have been arguing (or more likely trolling) with me for months that Conor Benn’s situation was the same as Canelo’s when it clearly and obviously was not. Canelo’s excuse has always been more believable and he actually provided receipts that back up his reasoning.

Honestly, are you mentally challenged? I'm not even trying to be funny here, because if you are I'll stop even quoting your posts because it becomes immoral at that point.

I have never said there aren't differences between Canelo and Conor Benn's cases. Of course there are. There isn't two PED cases that are identical. For starts, Benn popped for a PCT, whereas Canelo popped for a potent PED, so that alone separates the two cases quite drastically. Let alone the others components, timing of the failed tests etc.

Where the cases are very similar, however, is the plausibility of their excuses being demonstrably true, which is the same; Zero.

Both popped twice, both popped for trace amounts, both claim contamination, both are very possible reasons for their failed tests but both are demonstrably impossible to prove.

Is it possible that Canelo's failed test was due to contamination? Yes, it is. Is it also possible that Conor Benn's failed tests were due to contamination? Yes, it is. Is it also possible both are lying? Yes, it is.

Alicia Baumgardner is in the same boat, by the way. Hers could be contamination. The person you are here calling a PED cheat. Dillian Whyte is also in the same boat, so is Tyson Fury, so is basically everyone that's failed a drug test. I don't know if you're following here but there's quite a good reason for that most of the time...

What we can't do, though, is deem one "likely clean" and the rest cheaters. That is disingenuous, at best. Very ******, at worst.

I don't know how I can make that more clear to you. I often wonder if you'll ever get it or your blind love for Canelo won't allow it. But I genuinely cannot make that easier to understand.

And this was with me just knowing about the receipts…I had no idea that Canelo also could trace contaminated meat from two restaurants back to specific slaughterhouses.

Ok and is there a point there? What is your point?

Has Conor Benn been as open and transparent and forthcoming about where he bought contaminated eggs from? In a country which DOES NOT allow clomiphene to be used in egg production?

You've again brought up eggs. Why?

I've explained to you very very very clearly that their main line of defence, as confirmed publicly by Benn's solicitor, is contaminated supplements. So why do you insist on bringing up eggs when I've already explained this to you?

Over the counter supplements have a massive issue when it comes to contamination, and especially in the case of Clomid coincidentally. Does that mean that's the case here? No not necessarily but it's the same strength of defense that Canelo has. Which, is where your blatant double standard on this lies.

Be a man and admit you were wrong. Those are the next words I want to hear out of your mouth, otherwise just f-ck off. If you can’t acknowledge that then there is no point discussing or going back and forth with you over anything, and I will just ignore you from here on out.

Well, that goes without saying. You never address the points made when challenged and instead ignore and run away like a coward. Which is the equivalent to admitting defeat on the topic. Which again baffles me as to why you continue to speak on it.

This forum is public. Everyone can see your cowardice.

[IronDanHamza]

At the end of the day Canelo’s explanation was believable and he provided evidence to support what he said. Which is all I have ever claimed.

I have also maintained that regardless of that he was still responsible for what he put in his body and still needed to face punishment.

So is Alicia's believable? Is Erik Morales believable? Is Fury's believable? Is Valdez believable? is Amir Khan's believable? Is Roy Jones's believable?

For some reason, you only think Canelo's is believable. It's baffling.

[daggum]

So is Alicia's believable? Is Erik Morales believable? Is Fury's believable? Is Valdez believable? is Amir Khan's believable? Is Roy Jones's believable?

For some reason, you only think Canelo's is believable. It's baffling.

he thinks floyds cheating is fine too. connection? fanboyism

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he thinks floyds cheating is fine too. connection? fanboyism

I have never said Canelo’s cheating was fine, daggum. Just that his explanation was believable and that he provided evidence to back it up.

[IronDanHamza]

I have never said Canelo’s cheating was fine, daggum. Just that his explanation was believable and that he provided evidence to back it up.

Didn't Alicia provide evidence to back it up in her hearing? Is her excuse not believable?

Is Roy Jones? He provided evidence as to why he was above the threshold for testosterone.

Is Morales? Is Valdez?

Why is only Canelo's believable?

All of the above provided explanations that are on par with Canelo's.

[SweetPbfAli]

she keeps her titles & can fight twice this year if she wants, thats some suspension right there

Oh, I agree. I just think that's how they have handled it. Basically telling her to lay low until things blow over and then come back as if nothing happened.