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  • #31
    Greed doesnt care about the morals of how money is made.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

      And UKAD and the BBBoC won their appeal, didn’t they? With Conor Benn now being suspended and not being licensed to fight in the UK going on several years now?

      Canelo promptly served his suspension from the Las Vegas commission, got it over with, and resumed his career. Yet more differences between the two situations.
      Are you dumb or what? That’s a rhetorical question, don’t answer it.

      Are you not reading the words infront of you?

      Yes BBBoC/UKAD won their appeal. What is your point? And what does that have to do with what you asked?

      You just asked why he hasn’t been licensed in the UK for some time and I’ve literally just told you for probably the 5th or 6th time now in total. Because he protested his innocence, had a hearing against them, won the hearing, and his suspension was lifted. They then appealed that loss and won it, meaning it’s dragged out a very long time. That is not his fault, is it?

      That doesn’t change the fact that Canelo did the same equivalent, he protested his innocence, had a hearing, and was given a ban. The only single difference is Benn won his hearing and then it was overturned via appeal but that is a procedure issue, nothing to do with Benn. They still did the exact same thing in regards to claiming innocence and then having a hearing to resolve it.

      You have told multiple outright lies in this thread. Why are you refusing to address them when confronted on them? Are you that much a coward?

      You outright lied that he “tried to get around it by fighting in another jurisdiction” because that didn’t happen. He had a hearing and won said hearing. No different than Canelo who also had a hearing.

      You also said Conor Benn appealed a commission decision. That didn’t happen, that is a lie.

      Also, why did you lie and say Canelo “accepted his punishment” when he didn’t, he protested his innocence, never once accepted that he cheated and had a hearing to do so and was given a result from that hearing which is the exact same thing Conor Benn did/is doing.​​​

      WHY are you refusing to answer this? Stand on the claims you have made and the words you have said and address them like a man.


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      • #33
        Originally posted by Smash View Post

        so she did what cryin did and cut a bit of her hair off and sent it off to a 'lab' somewhere and got cleared on this?
        Probably from a brand new weave she bought that morning.
        Smash Smash likes this.

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        • #34
          IronDumb sure gets upset and writes walls of text whenever Conor Benn gets mentioned.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by paul77 View Post
            The real answer to your question: New York and Nevada have the highest standards with it comes to their athletic commissions and combat sports. California not far behind NY and NV.

            Everywhere else? The commissions barely exist. If you look around where lots of the most comical examples of cheating, you'll find they're usually outside of NY, NV, and CA.

            Baumgardner failed her test in Michigan. She's from Michigan. So they just decided not to suspend her - nothing anyone else can do if the commission doesn't do anything.

            Oscar Valdez failed his test in Arizona.

            Roy Jones failed in Indiana.

            Emmanuel Stewart implied Chavez Jr had someone else pee for him in his fight against Andy Lee. That was in Texas.

            Meanwhile for example, Joe Cusumano, a New Yorker, beat Kownacki in a massive upset. Hometown boy wins. But he failed his test, so the NY commission overturned the win the way they're supposed to.

            NY, CA, and NV aren't perfect, as we saw with the Canelo bull****, but they more-or-less do what they're supposed to when guys test positive. Elsewhere? Good luck if they even TEST the samples they take.
            The Michigan Commission appears to be a complete joke.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
              IronDumb sure gets upset and writes walls of text whenever Conor Benn gets mentioned.
              Are you ok? Do you think this makes you look anything but pathetic? Because it doesn’t.

              I’ve said this as nauseam, but I’ll say it again to see if it sinks in, because it’s clear you struggle with reading, but, I am not a fan of Conor Benn mate I actively dislike the guy, he’s actually one of the only fighters in boxing a actively dislike and can’t wait to see get battered when he steps up even close to world level. I think he’s a poor fighter and I think even lesser of him as a man. He’s also a PED user.

              I am a way bigger fan of Canelo, who I consider myself a fan of. But what I am, is consistent, which is the total opposite of what you are.

              So, are you actually going to address the points and counter points made or not? Are you going to address the things you have blatantly OUTRIGHT lied about or not?

              Why do you even post on here? If you refuse to answer any questions posed to you when you are challenged? You literally never address any of the points you make when challenged. It’s embarrassing.
              Last edited by IronDanHamza; 05-25-2024, 08:45 AM.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

                Hair samples don’t prove someone accidentally took a PED.
                Well it backs up the claim if the hair sample stores as far back as 6 months etc.. in what is always 'adverse' findings etc.


                The hair sample was clean..


                It indirectly proves it.. a spectrum of cleanness or anti cleanness.


                https://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...orld-title-win

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                • #38
                  As opposed to a Beterbiev 'atypical' finding.. who never took any drugs.. and is just a physical specimen etc.. as far as we know anyway.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Superheavyweight View Post

                    Well it backs up the claim if the hair sample stores as far back as 6 months etc.. in what is always 'adverse' findings etc.


                    The hair sample was clean..


                    It indirectly proves it.. a spectrum of cleanness or anti cleanness.


                    https://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...orld-title-win
                    what lab did she send her hair to? Did they send someone to cut her hair and seal it etc?
                    if not did they dna her hair at the lab? the hair test has issues at times & im sure many other things, its a bit like putting yourself in charge of your trial

                    bumgardners statement after the hair test negative is hilarious if u read it, she ends with "I consider the issue resolved" LOL she resolved her own issue, she then finishes the statement with "One of the most naturally gifted athletes that womens boxing has ever seen is back. The Queen is Coming!" LMAO that funny stuff i think

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                    • #40
                      So your issue is did the lab 'lie' or was incompetent.. rather than the actual test being clean?


                      These are different questions then..

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