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Comments Thread For: Mike Tyson Believes Tyson Fury Will Overpower Oleksandr Usyk
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Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View PostThe last time Fury was in kind of shape was in 2020 Wilder rematch.
Usyk was in a good shape in Joshua rematch 2022.
They both looked terrible in their last fights.
Who knows what will happen.
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Originally posted by mawoodhouse View Post
Unfortunately this one has all the makings of a boring fight! Neither one is exciting to watch.
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I used to believe that Tyson Fury would overpower Usyk with his size but now I am not too sure. It would all come down to how much Tyson Fury really wants it.
He expended a lot of energy in that Wilder trilogy. He had to bite down and dig very deep just in order to put him away for those three fights.
The question still looms about how much does he has left in him? If Oleksandr comes to just lay down then it would be easy.
However, if he actually comes to fight then Fury could be in a lot of trouble. We all know that he is very confident going into this fight. Just like he was against Ngannou.
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Anybody who continually keeps going on about Tyson Fury being a super heavyweight 'Are disregarding other factors in the fight, that have a great effect in competitive violence. Those people are only making cliche, banal, surface level observations'.
Tyson Fury is not the best athlete in this match up, I have stated this before? Oleksandr Usyk if he was put through a physical and athletic assessment against Tyson Fury 'Usyk would beat Fury most likely in every single discipline'.
Oleksandr Uysk most likely has a higher Vo2max, Power to weight ratio, superior agility, superior co-ordination, reaction times. If you was to match both boxers against each other, in all Track and Field Athletic disciplines once again 'Uysk would most likely win every single event, ranging from the Sprint events, all the Middle distance track events, all the long distance track events, all the jumping events, all the throwing events and Multi-event competitions'.'.
The point I am trying to make, is that Tyson Fury is not the best Athlete in this match up 'Fury is not a Super Heavyweight version of Oleksandr Uysk in terms of Athleticism and overall conditioning'.
Tyson Fury is a great fighter, he does have some solid athleticism 'For a sport like boxing'. But he is not this genetic marvel type athlete to the level, the media and his hardcore fans like to claim.
Oleksandr Uysk has already beaten and fought a Super Heavyweight who is by far a better athlete than Tyson Fury 'And that fighter is Anthony Joshua'.
Note: People must understand? I am not trying to claim that Oleksandr Uysk is Tyson Fury's kryptonite, because really when you analyse Uysk as a fighter 'You will realize that Uysk stylistically at Heavyweight is not Tyson Fury's most difficult challenge'.
If you was playing a game, and you was granted the task of creating a character to beat Tyson Fury 'That fighter would appear more like Anthony Joshua. Joshua for me is stylistically Fury's most difficult fight at Heavyweight right now'.
And this is why, from a pure competitor's perspective 'Boxing analyst who have been observing the sport for years, and even boxers themselves who know the sport. They know that the dimension of Fury, are going to intimidate Uysk'.
Tyson Fury does not have the experience of Oleksandr Uysk at fighting at World and Elite level skill for skill 'Uysk has fought and beaten multi-fighters who pound for pound better fighters than Fury skill for skill'.
When James Toney entered into the Heavyweight Division out of condition 'He continually kept on stating, that these Heavyweights are not the best fighters he has fought. Toney reference fighters such as Michael Nunn, and Mike Mccallum'.
David Haye when he invaded the Heavyweight division, was also another fighter that continually kept on stating, that these Heavyweights are not the best fighters he has fought skill for skill. Haye stated that he will appear like Neo out of the matrix vs these Super Heavyweights'.
Haye record as a Heavyweight, was not far off that description. It was only when he fought Wladimir Kiltschko at his absolute peak, was he challenged like never before.
And this is a factor people overlook in these type of match ups, fighters like David Haye and Oleksandr Uysk 'For most their careers they would of fought fighters who where superior skill for skill than most of these Heavyweights'.
To disregard the threat of Oleksandr Usyk so easily, and just focus on the dimensions of Fury 'I don't think they understand competitive violence'.
Uysk has been fighting and beating Heavyweights, who are stronger and have more power than Fury 'Joshua and Dubois both have superior brute strength and power than Fury'.
What is making the fight difficult to chose a victor is? That both of these fighters are undefeated 'So perceptually naturally, by nature it will be difficult to envision the winning fighter'.
I have personally always thought, that the action of the fight 'May appear to develop in a very similar manner, to the Joshua vs Uysk I & II fights. Ether Tyson Fury does abit better than Joshua and wins. Or he will be beaten in worse fashion than Joshua due to his innate clumsiness, tendency to make unforced errors and not having the solid technical fundamentals like Joshua'.
So of course Tyson Fury's dimensions are a factor in this fight, but as we have discussed there are many more factors 'That in my opinion have a great effect on competitive violence' etc.
Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-15-2024, 09:50 AM.
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