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  • #41
    Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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    What in the world are you talking about? Slaughtered? Dude, this is a boxing forum not some prison yard malarkey.
    I never brought up triangles - I merely responded to those that brought it up.

    Again, I never said I’m picking Fury because of his past struggles. I was pretty clear when I said the size difference is too much for Usyk to overcome. You are jumping onto threads without context.
    Let’s talk after the fight.
    Alright ..alright….

    Usyk will lose by corruption unless he reads my posts …..

    He simply won’t win a decision he knows this that’s why he knows what’s going on..so ……you ever see a James Bond old school movie ? Basically it’s this Usyk he has to beat up a giant In the ring , deal with a referee and the judges in the event it lasts …..etc etc….he’s not dumb he knows .



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    • #42
      Originally posted by landotter View Post
      Beyond my normal reasoning, I am actually a little concerned for the weight loss of Fury. .
      My thoughts as well. Uysk looks in natural better shape . Fury's past lifestyle may catch up with him. Reading for one how excess alcohol which Fury has sometimes been known for dehydrates the muscles and makes it more likely to tear. Point is body is a machine and the better you look after it more efficiently it runs. Seems Uysk mental and physical is better and even on natural boxing ability ousts Fury. Having said that Ive always felt Fury's size is an advantage which evens the playing field.
      Last edited by Richard; 05-16-2024, 01:57 AM.

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      • #43
        Yes he will. The more closer we get to the fight the more confident I am Fury will win.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Apollo7 View Post

          I can't see it making a difference to how people view Wilder unless Fury gives Usyk a worse beating than he gave Wilder maybe.
          Precisely

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          • #45
            Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
            Fury got here by taking easy touches and took 3 years off he’s never fought back to back legit top 10 guys that’s how you know your good because outside Wilder then going into a Whyte fight that’s the only time Fury ever did that and that’s as champion bc he was forced into it ? Lol

            Usyk is a true warrior the only easy touches he took was when he came into the pro heavyweight division and had injuries postpartum his career as well a Covid etc etc .


            Theres a huge difference between these two if Fury wins he’s basically stealing the spot light bc Usyk did all the historical stuff , but speaking of stealing literally bc I don’t think for one second the two judges assigned to this fight will remotely give it to Usyk if it’s a close fight that Usyks won without any knockdowns unless Fury is battered and bloodied throughout the fight .


            Usyk deserves to win he’s strived for it and kept dedicated, Fury is the big goof ball,who lies time and again he dint even care about what his own fans think , I’ll be rooting for Usyk hard but my prediction is Fury will get a robbery win ,hopefully he just gets pummeled and the ref remembers it’s a boxing match not MMA .


            Listening to John will be nauseating itself . Lol






            Why should Fury care about the fans all that much?
            Look what all the "care" the fans are showing him. Right here.

            Fury won the Title from the man who reconnected title lineage by thoroughly cleaning up the division, in a fight that was not close.

            Usyk holds a few promotional belts and is receiving a well earned shot at the one title in this fight.

            Any close decision should go to Fury.
            If a challenger really wants a title, he must leave no doubt.

            Fair play.
            Last edited by Willow The Wisp; 05-18-2024, 02:38 PM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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              I see You love triangle theories so let’s give you a couple more.
              Marquez destroyed PAC and arguable won the other three fights so he should have destroyed Floyd.
              Lennox got destroyed by Rahman who got destroyed by Olev Maskaev so Oleg must be better.
              Mosley beat Mayorga who beat Vernon Forrest so Mosley should have destroyed Forrest.
              Foreman destroyed Frazier and Norton and Ali beat Foreman so Ali should have had a very easy time with Frazier and Norton.


              While we’re at it, let’s add this logic below
              Glenn Johnson destroyed Roy Jones so he’s an ATG over Roy.
              nothing to do with triangle theories the bottom line the fighters that fury has beaten have been easily defeated by other world class fighters which tells me that fury is not as good as you think he is…..and fighting the wallin , chisora’s , wilders of this world are not as great you believe.

              i am willing to have a wager with you that usyk beats him if your up for it….its not one triangle theory it’s numerous fighters in the last few months that have been beaten easily that fury’s has been using as some kind of yardstick for his weak resume

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp View Post

                The responsible way to communicate all this would have to include the notes that explain things such as:

                Wallin is a fringe contender, much like Helenius. A good win. an expected win.

                Wilder is "The guy who lost a nod to Parker" and nothing more, like Joshua is "the guy who was blown away by Ruiz", like Usyk is "the guy who got felled fair by Dubois and cried to the ref for help". Like Parker is "the guy chewed up and spit out by Joyce", and nothing more.

                As they run through the mill, all if them get wins and losses in an active division.

                Anyone thinking that Fury's cash grab against the hapless Ngannou holds any meaning regarding Fury's fighting ability is a newcomer to the sport.

                But I myself might learn a thing or two Saturday.
                If Usyk wins, it makes Joshua look good.
                If Fury wins, it makes Wilder look good.
                It’s not a triangle theory being employed to forecast a fight outcome saying so. It's how things work.
                yiu can’t talk about being the greatest fighter in his era when all the fighters he has beaten and then to see them get beat soundly ……we saw it with Parker dominating wilder and Joshua destroying both wallin and Ngannou less that 3 months apart……fury’s has been content in facing less credible opponents and choose to stay away from the harder fight and fighters……..chisora , seferi , pianeta , Swartz , Whyte and Ngannou are not fringe contenders at best.

                whats your excuse going to be when usyk runs rings around him Saturday night wisp ?

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by The plunger man View Post

                  nothing to do with triangle theories the bottom line the fighters that fury has beaten have been easily defeated by other world class fighters which tells me that fury is not as good as you think he is…..and fighting the wallin , chisora’s , wilders of this world are not as great you believe.

                  i am willing to have a wager with you that usyk beats him if your up for it….its not one triangle theory it’s numerous fighters in the last few months that have been beaten easily that fury’s has been using as some kind of yardstick for his weak resume
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                  You seem set in making this into opposing ideas that you are willing to make a wager with me.
                  So, let me make it clear - I am a big fan of Usyk and if he wins I’d be stoked for him. An undersized former cruiserweight beating a 6’7 giant is wild.

                  That said, what you are trying to not say is that you are actually using the triangle theory which never works.
                  There way too many examples of triangle theories we can point out that sounds just like what you are trying not to say.

                  But, what will you say if Fury decisively beats Usyk? Will you discredit Fury and then find another way to move the goalpost or will you acknowledge that Fury is actually a good boxer but just an asshöle in general?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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                    You seem set in making this into opposing ideas that you are willing to make a wager with me.
                    So, let me make it clear - I am a big fan of Usyk and if he wins I’d be stoked for him. An undersized former cruiserweight beating a 6’7 giant is wild.

                    That said, what you are trying to not say is that you are actually using the triangle theory which never works.
                    There way too many examples of triangle theories we can point out that sounds just like what you are trying not to say.

                    But, what will you say if Fury decisively beats Usyk? Will you discredit Fury and then find another way to move the goalpost or will you acknowledge that Fury is actually a good boxer but just an asshöle in general?
                    if fury beats usyk fairly I will give him full props….make no mistake about it this is Tyson fury’s hardest fight of his career and is the acid test and will cement his legacy.
                    usyk is no wilder, chisora, Whyte or wallin.
                    Tyson fury has been bigging up the self acclaimed greatest fighter of his generation let’s see if he delivers what he has been saying about himself is true



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                    • #50
                      I think usyk wins this and people are underestimating how hard he hits too.

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