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  • #31
    Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
    Fury got here by taking easy touches and took 3 years off he’s never fought back to back legit top 10 guys that’s how you know your good because outside Wilder then going into a Whyte fight that’s the only time Fury ever did that and that’s as champion bc he was forced into it ? Lol

    Usyk is a true warrior the only easy touches he took was when he came into the pro heavyweight division and had injuries postpartum his career as well a Covid etc etc .


    Theres a huge difference between these two if Fury wins he’s basically stealing the spot light bc Usyk did all the historical stuff , but speaking of stealing literally bc I don’t think for one second the two judges assigned to this fight will remotely give it to Usyk if it’s a close fight that Usyks won without any knockdowns unless Fury is battered and bloodied throughout the fight .


    Usyk deserves to win he’s strived for it and kept dedicated, Fury is the big goof ball,who lies time and again he dint even care about what his own fans think , I’ll be rooting for Usyk hard but my prediction is Fury will get a robbery win ,hopefully he just gets pummeled and the ref remembers it’s a boxing match not MMA .

    Listening to John will be nauseating itself . Lol
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    The better man deserves to win. That’s like saying Mosley deserves to win over Floyd because he’s a nicer person.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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      The better man deserves to win. That’s like saying Mosley deserves to win over Floyd because he’s a nicer person.
      I know my post took the wind out of you because the truth ,truth kills on this forum .

      Fury’s resume isn’t even close to Usyks you don’t even know what your reading .
      Last edited by juggernaut666; 05-15-2024, 04:04 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by The plunger man View Post
        against who ? What you mean wallin who joshua easily destroyed ? Against wilder who Parker beat every single second of there fight or Ngannou who was knocked out cold by joshua……yeah you can win against mediocre heavyweights but that’s a false prophecy because it deludes yourself and a lot of naive fans thinking he cannot be beat.
        when he faces usyk this Saturday that mindset will get blown to pieces
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        I see You love triangle theories so let’s give you a couple more.
        Marquez destroyed PAC and arguable won the other three fights so he should have destroyed Floyd.
        Lennox got destroyed by Rahman who got destroyed by Olev Maskaev so Oleg must be better.
        Mosley beat Mayorga who beat Vernon Forrest so Mosley should have destroyed Forrest.
        Foreman destroyed Frazier and Norton and Ali beat Foreman so Ali should have had a very easy time with Frazier and Norton.


        While we’re at it, let’s add this logic below
        Glenn Johnson destroyed Roy Jones so he’s an ATG over Roy.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

          You're acting like Usyk isn't undefeated here... Unlike Fury, he's got no draws either, and he didn't get knocked down by an MMA guy on his debut. I get what you're trying to say, but in this context, it's a pretty ****** argument. "Fury always finds a way to win, except for that one time that he didn't, and he's fighting a guy who's won every fight, but he's still going to find a way to win because he always has before. Except for that one time when he didn't win."-Oregonian.
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          You are assuming I dislike Usyk or perhaps I’m dismissive of him. Quite the contrary. I love Usyk. I think he’s just too small to beat Fury. If Usyk wins, I will lose no sleep and neither will I ridicule Fury. It will just mean the better fighter won.

          I’m just picking Fury to win.

          You guys gotta stop with the triangle theory which never works. Using the MMA analogy, Connor McGregor must be a hell of a boxer for his gallant performance against Floyd. That was also a debut for an MMA guy.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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            You are assuming I dislike Usyk or perhaps I’m dismissive of him. Quite the contrary. I love Usyk. I think he’s just too small to beat Fury. If Usyk wins, I will lose no sleep and neither will I ridicule Fury. It will just mean the better fighter won.

            I’m just picking Fury to win.

            You guys gotta stop with the triangle theory which never works. Using the MMA analogy, Connor McGregor must be a hell of a boxer for his gallant performance against Floyd. That was also a debut for an MMA guy.
            There's no triangle theory.

            It's literally fact that he has a draw on his record and that he got knocked down by a debutante.

            The argument is that he's undefeated and has always found a way to win. Except he hasn't. He got a draw officially, and let's be blunt: if he weren't the A-side, he would never have won the fight vs Ngannou. He was lucky to escape that fight with a split decision.

            And when you've got a guy in the other corner who is undefeated with no draws, it's also literally fact that Usyk has always found a way to win.

            That has nothing to do with triangle theories. The argument depends on the premise that Fury has always found a way to win, and that's flat untrue by his official record. Even leaving out the Ngannou fight, the best you can say is that he found a way to not lose. But he didn't win all his fights. Period.

            You know who has? Usyk.

            And of course that's leaving out the amateurs, because both guys have losses in the ams.

            A triangle theory is that A beat B, and B beat C, so therefore A will beat C. That's not even a little bit what's going on here. You made an argument that only factually applies to Usyk. He's the only one with no blemishes on his professional record. Fury has a fight that he didn't win, Usyk doesn't. So the statement "he's always found a way to win" only applies to Usyk, not to Fury.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

              There's no triangle theory.

              It's literally fact that he has a draw on his record and that he got knocked down by a debutante.

              The argument is that he's undefeated and has always found a way to win. Except he hasn't. He got a draw officially, and let's be blunt: if he weren't the A-side, he would never have won the fight vs Ngannou. He was lucky to escape that fight with a split decision.

              And when you've got a guy in the other corner who is undefeated with no draws, it's also literally fact that Usyk has always found a way to win.

              That has nothing to do with triangle theories. The argument depends on the premise that Fury has always found a way to win, and that's flat untrue by his official record. Even leaving out the Ngannou fight, the best you can say is that he found a way to not lose. But he didn't win all his fights. Period.

              You know who has? Usyk.

              And of course that's leaving out the amateurs, because both guys have losses in the ams.

              A triangle theory is that A beat B, and B beat C, so therefore A will beat C. That's not even a little bit what's going on here. You made an argument that only factually applies to Usyk. He's the only one with no blemishes on his professional record. Fury has a fight that he didn't win, Usyk doesn't. So the statement "he's always found a way to win" only applies to Usyk, not to Fury.
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              I’m guessing you are picking Usyk to win this fight because of Fury’s past struggles. That is fair so instead of a protracted debate, let’s just wait until Saturday and we can catch up after the fight.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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                I’m guessing you are picking Usyk to win this fight because of Fury’s past struggles. That is fair so instead of a protracted debate, let’s just wait until Saturday and we can catch up after the fight.
                That's immaterial. I could see Fury winning. He's got more paths to victory, after all. But I was making the point that the argument doesn't make sense considering that Usyk is the only one who's actually won all his own pro fights. It's a logically invalid argument when applied to Fury. You don't need to read more into it than that. I try very hard to say exactly what I mean and no more.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

                  I know my post took the wind out of you because the truth ,truth kills on this forum .

                  Fury’s resume isn’t even close to Usyks you don’t even know what your reading .
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                  Save the personal attacks for others, Fury is fighting Usyk on Saturday. Someone is getting beat. Period.
                  If it’s Usyk, it’s all good. The better man won. If it’s Fury, same traffic.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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                    Save the personal attacks for others, Fury is fighting Usyk on Saturday. Someone is getting beat. Period.
                    If it’s Usyk, it’s all good. The better man won. If it’s Fury, same traffic.
                    Nothings personal here the fact you brought up characters ,I brought up how they conducted there careers ,you’ve got slaughtered on here you talk in circles and will continue to do do bc your trying to defend something indefensible . Lol

                    Your bringing up triangles etc etc…if anyone is taking it to heart it’s you and bc like I said facts kill on here . Interesting your picking Fury bc of his past struggles isn’t that the argument you retracted to me about the better man winning as if that is irrelevant ? Fury’s past struggles he self inflicted anyway .
                    Last edited by juggernaut666; 05-15-2024, 07:06 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post

                      Nothings personal here the fact you brought up characters ,I brought up how they conducted there careers ,you’ve got slaughtered on here you talk in circles and will continue to do do bc your trying to defend something indefensible . Lol

                      Your bringing up triangles etc etc…if anyone is taking it to heart it’s you and bc like I said facts kill on here . Interesting your picking Fury bc of his past struggles isn’t that the argument you retracted to me about the better man winning as if that is irrelevant ? Fury’s past struggles he self inflicted anyway .
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                      What in the world are you talking about? Slaughtered? Dude, this is a boxing forum not some prison yard malarkey.
                      I never brought up triangles - I merely responded to those that brought it up.

                      Again, I never said I’m picking Fury because of his past struggles. I was pretty clear when I said the size difference is too much for Usyk to overcome. You are jumping onto threads without context.
                      Let’s talk after the fight.
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