Originally posted by Roadblock
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Why did de la Hoya agree to fight Pacquiao at 147?
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The answer is de la hoya was supposed to fight Floyd in a rematch at 147 in September 2008. So oscar fought Forbes at 150 in may 2008 to prepare for floyd at 147.
once Floyd decided to retire. Oscar said he would fight the cott vs Margarito winner in December 2008 instead. With cotto being the intended target. Margarito beat cotto in July 2008. Oscar then chooses Pacquiao as the dance partner.
Oscar was fighting at 147 that year whether it was Floyd, cotto, or pac. But he should have just made Margarito come up to 154. Or fought a old head fight with Winky Wright at 160. Winky would have been coming off a ppv loss to Hopkins at 170 in 2008.
Oscar screwed OscarLast edited by Hustle; 05-08-2024, 10:16 PM.
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Originally posted by 4truth View Post
He looked okay at the 150 halfway point. If Floyd had not fake retired to avoid the rematch I'm sure you'd agree.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
True, worse than LaLonde and Chad Dawson, I may be wrong but I cant remember a worst case of a drained fighter in my 60 yrs of following boxing, and that's not Mannys fault Oscar did it to himself, he tried to gain an advantage and it backfired and gave him a massive handicap, fanboys cant see it for what it is.
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Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
Oscar underestimated making 147 killing him that's what happened, he thought he would be to big and strong for Manny, he was wrong as it had the opposite effect.
This was why? When Manny Pacquiao was matched against Miguel Cotto? I was backing Cotto to beat Pacquiao.
Not only was Miguel Cotto skill for skill, a elite level fighter 'He would be stronger and more comfortable at Welter Weight than Oscar De La Hoya'.
The slight catch weight of 145 pounds was abit unnecessary 'But I still thought Cotto would be just too strong, and fundamentally solid'.
From Oscar De La Hoya to Shane Mosley, like I stated in my first post? That run of fights was awesome 'There has not been a run of fights, as brutal or influential since that stage of Pacquiao's career in boxing'.
Note: The reason why fighters like Mike Tyson, Manny Pacquiao and Prince Naseem Hamed 'Regardless of the statistics of their careers, are held in such high esteem. Is because how they won, the action that was produced in their fights. The level of performance' etc.
Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-09-2024, 08:49 AM.
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Some of you make it appear that the smaller fighter is the one automatically benefitting from a catch weight. And that is the reason for Pacquiao's sucess.
Pacquiao was LINEAL CHAMPION AT FLYWEIGHT and now the OLDEST WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION IN HISTORY.
Can't accept how great he is and greater than Mayweather? Racism. Now it's Inoue being accused of many things.Last edited by sargo; 05-10-2024, 01:53 AM.
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Originally posted by sargo View PostSome of you make it appear that the smaller fighter is the one automatically benefitting from a catch weight. And that is the reason for Pacquiao's sucess.
Pacquiao was LINEAL CHAMPION AT FLYWEIGHT and now the OLDEST WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPION IN HISTORY.
Can't accept how great he is and greater than Mayweather? Racism. Now it's Inoue being accused of many things.resume -
Clottey
Cotto* (ran away from a no * rematch)
DLH* (worst version)
Rios
Lucas
Margarito* (see DLH)
Broner
Vargas
Sometime
Algieri*
Mosley
Timmy 3x ()
JMM 2x ()
HORN ()
Ugas ()
How did Pac survive
Last edited by BodyBagz; 05-10-2024, 02:44 AM.
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Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
Oscar De La Hoya both underestimated Manny Pacquiao's ability, and how difficult it was going to be for him to make the 147 pound weight limit.
This was why? When Manny Pacquiao was matched against Miguel Cotto? I was backing Cotto to beat Pacquiao.
Not only was Miguel Cotto skill for skill, a elite level fighter 'He would be stronger and more comfortable at Welter Weight than Oscar De La Hoya'.
The slight catch weight of 145 pounds was abit unnecessary 'But I still thought Cotto would be just too strong, and fundamentally solid'.
From Oscar De La Hoya to Shane Mosley, like I stated in my first post? That run of fights was awesome 'There has not been a run of fights, as brutal or influential since that stage of Pacquiao's career in boxing'.
Note: The reason why fighters like Mike Tyson, Manny Pacquiao and Prince Naseem Hamed 'Regardless of the statistics of their careers, are held in such high esteem. Is because how they won, the action that was produced in their fights. The level of performance' etc.
For the thread Manny could never beat Floyd, if that wasnt apparent back then, then today its as plain as day. Floyd would also go through Mannys resume undefeated, and if Manny had fought through Mayweathers resume he would have more losses than he has now, hell of a good fighter with great accomplishments but he aint beating Floyd from 130 up at any time you like.
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