Ryan Garcia tested negative on 2/26, 3/8, 3/15, and 4/3

[kiaba360]

I rarely defend anyone who fails a test, I don't think I've ever done it, but this is first guy I've seen to get straight onto video, speak to the world rather than saying nothing and keeping it hidden or releasing some scripted statement. When you watch him, he really doesn't come off as someone who cheated/took PEDs.

Garcia is performative, so much of his life takes place in front of a camera for others to see. It would be unusual if he DIDN'T publicly say something.

[BustedKnuckles]

Right but what you're not seeming to understand here is just because someone passes a drug test doesn't mean they aren't using PEDs.

So we have no idea when he started it, or how he was using it. And the fact he passed drug tests during that time doesn't mean he wasn't using it at that time. What we do know is it was in his system at some point at the very least on two separate occasions and it makes perfect sense if he were to be using it at that time frame.

On another note, 10 days is more than enough, especially for your final cut week of, which can be up to 10+ lbs. The fact it is a fast acting sarm with a short half life only supports that, not the other way around.

There are a plethora of options of what could have happened. All we have here, like every single failed drug test situation, is (educated) guess work. We will never know the truth unless Garcia himself comes out and says it.

The point is, though, passing previous drug tests doesn't mean or prove anything. The idea that is doesn't make sense for him to pop for Ostarine at that time because he passed on 4/3 is just wrong.

That's exactly my point, and has been since my first post.

You just want to be right. Like I said, you're not talking rocket science, and I'm no dummy. The irony of telling somebody repeatedly that they don't understand something, while not taking the time to understand their statement...

Nobody takes osta for just 10 days. There's no payoff in such little time, especially compared to the risk of getting caught. Therefore, either:

1. He was already taking prior to 4/3, or
2. something weird with the test.

But as I also already said, in all cases I lean toward a dirty test as evidence of what we already know in theory.

If you're just going to keep saying the same thing and telling me I dont understand, theres nothing else I have to add. So save yourself the trouble.

[IronDanHamza]

That's exactly my point, and has been since my first post.

You just want to be right. Like I said, you're not talking rocket science, and I'm no dummy. The irony of telling somebody repeatedly that they don't understand something, while not taking the time to understand their statement...

Nobody takes osta for just 10 days. There's no payoff in such little time, especially compared to the risk of getting caught. Therefore, either:

1. He was already taking prior to 4/3, or
2. something weird with the test.

But as I also already said, in all cases I lean toward a dirty test as evidence of what we already know in theory.

If you're just going to keep saying the same thing and telling me I dont understand, theres nothing else I have to add. So save yourself the trouble.

Right so we’re in agreement that the negative tests are irrelevant then?

[Ryn0]

Ostarine clears your system in 48 hours. So it's very possible he took it last minute.

Only two possibilities: Garcia took Ostarine knowingly, or he took a supplement that was contaminated with Ostarine.

No one takes Ostarine to cut weight. It is not a diuretic.

So, if I give him the benefit of the doubt: he took a substance that was contaminated.

Forgive me, but Ostarine has a half life of 24 hours so while it's effects clear your system after 48 hours. It's metabolites are quite easily detected after 9 days.

For the record, I'm certain he was cheating and either using someone elses urine/a masking agent you're completely right that Ostarine is useless to make weight. The tainted supplement excuse I always hear is almost always bull**** and if you're a top athlete you should be getting supplements from a company that tests it products to sell to athletes that undergo testing of which there are loads now.

[Gary Coleman]

I rarely defend anyone who fails a test, I don't think I've ever done it, but this is first guy I've seen to get straight onto video, speak to the world rather than saying nothing and keeping it hidden or releasing some scripted statement. When you watch him, he really doesn't come off as someone who cheated/took PEDs.

I'm watching the same things you are he comes off guilty af.

It's become fashionable to deny wrongdoing even when you're caught red-handed. The playbook is to "deny and attack" to the point that you muddy the waters and create enough doubt that even stone cold proof won't sway the court of public opinion.

Ryan is a manipulator. Tie in his pre-fight antics, the weird diatribes he goes on, him missing weight and this is right on brand. He's hoping he can escape in the chaos and if he can't, he'll just create more.

[IronDanHamza]

Forgive me, but Ostarine has a half life of 24 hours so while it's effects clear your system after 48 hours. It's metabolites are quite easily detected after 9 days.

For the record, I'm certain he was cheating and either using someone elses urine/a masking agent you're completely right that Ostarine is useless to make weight. The tainted supplement excuse I always hear is almost always bull**** and if you're a top athlete you should be getting supplements from a company that tests it products to sell to athletes that undergo testing of which there are loads now.

Why would you say Ostarine is useless for making weight? I’d say quite the opposite.

But I totally agree with everything else you said.

[SUBZER0ED]

We don’t know what he was doing.

Yes they do, they can tell us the purpose of their use. Right now i’m leaning towards using it to make weight. It’s pretty relevant. We also know he had trouble making weight.

Stop trying to reason out why Garcia took peds as some kind of excuse. Performance Enhancing Drugs do just that- they enhance performance. It doesn't matter why he took them, they are banned and they were found in his system. FYI, Ostarine is used to prevent muscle loss and nandrolone is used to build muscle. Garcia wasn't trying to make weight, he was trying to get bigger and stronger, so that he would have a physical advantage over Haney.

[Ryn0]

Why would you say Ostarine is useless for making weight? I’d say quite the opposite.

But I totally agree with everything else you said.

OK so it'll help you retain muscle on a weight cut if that's what you're saying which if you start your cut early enough is good news. But that is also going to stop you from actually making weight as quickly which could explain Garcia coming in 3lbs over. If I was a boxer and I was trying to make weight it's not the ideal compound or even SARM, you'd go for Cardarine as a SARM or Clenbuterol.

[SUBZER0ED]

Why would you say Ostarine is useless for making weight? I’d say quite the opposite.

But I totally agree with everything else you said.

Ostarine maintains muscle mass while one is cutting fat. So, while Garcia may have been trying to cut fat so that he could make weight, Ostarine wouldn't have helped him do that. Since muscle is heavier than fat, the ostarine that he took to maintain muscle and the nandrolone that he took to gain it worked against him in his attempt to lose weight. My guess is that he has very little fat in his body at all.

[SUBZER0ED]

OK so it'll help you retain muscle on a weight cut if that's what you're saying which if you start your cut early enough is good news. But that is also going to stop you from actually making weight as quickly which could explain Garcia coming in 3lbs over. If I was a boxer and I was trying to make weight it's not the ideal compound or even SARM, you'd go for Cardarine as a SARM or Clenbuterol.

I see that you posted pretty much what I was thinking.