How many fights at pro level are fixed in advance?

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  • 4truth
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    #11
    I think a lot of fights are influenced. To fix a fight everyone has got to be in on it even the guy scripted to lose. The first 2 Canelo / Golovkin fights were influenced. Rolly's fights with Marinez and Barroso were influenced, Loma /Haney was influenced, imo. I think judges are sometimes advised to give rounds to a certain fighter

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    • Smash
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      #12
      Originally posted by Atypicalbrit
      I think it's very rare.


      A lot of times if the away fighter isn't wealthy, their travel arrangements are taken care of by the main fight promoter, the klitschkos were known for booking opponents into hotel rooms opposite a noisy construction site and things like this, anything to get an edge.
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      i remember the vlad haye matchup

      vlad sent david down some narrow walkway on his ringwalk right beside the crowd who were literally tripping him on his way down to the ring, i didnt know at the time but haye had a sore swollen pinky toe as well lol

      vlad came down some big walkway no bother at all, funny stuff

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      • IceTrayDaGang
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        #13
        zero to none!! at this pro level, do you know the amount of trouble one could face for "fixing" fights... judges may be influenced to score higher for a certain fighter for whatever reason, but to say fights are fixed, no way!!!

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        • anonymous2.0
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          #14
          Any time it takes forever for the scorecards to be tallied, I get wary. Why is it taking you so long to add up a scorecard, something that you are getting paid to do and have had previous experience in doing?

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          • Atypicalbrit
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            #15
            Originally posted by Smash

            i remember the vlad haye matchup

            vlad sent david down some narrow walkway on his ringwalk right beside the crowd who were literally tripping him on his way down to the ring, i didnt know at the time but haye had a sore swollen pinky toe as well lol

            vlad came down some big walkway no bother at all, funny stuff
            It sort of went a bit under the radar but yeah Berne Bonte who ran K2 promotions was always looking for every little niggly thing he could find to add annoyance or unsettle the away fighter, it kind of culminised in the bouncy castle ring they tried to use for the fury fight which they used because they knew Wlad was a lot more flat footed than Fury

            Makes me wonder what else there was that we didn't hear about during lads reign, I actually want to go rewatch the Haye fight to see if they used it in that lol.

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            • BustedKnuckles
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              #16
              How many fights at the pro level are fixed in advance?

              A lot more than fights that are fixed afterwards.

              Really, though, I tend to think it's kinda common that either one or more judges or the ref are paid for. Or else, they fix it for their own bets. Boxing judging and reffing is just too terrible sometimes to be explained by incompetence alone.

              I have seen some obvious dives in fights too, but I can't say whether it's because the fighters are paid for (prob) or because they suck and wants to go home (maybe).

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              • automaton89
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                #17
                Originally posted by Willow The Wisp
                Extremely rare. Those who think otherwise are getting their information from Hollywood.
                How do you know?

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                • STREET CLEANER
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                  #18
                  Look at that recent Ramirez fight a robbery and I was rooting for him. There was another recent robbery with that Hitchens fight. This happens too often.

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                  • Willow The Wisp
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by automaton89

                    How do you know?
                    You're reading Bigfoot / UFO conspiracy theorists all over this thread and ask ME how I know?
                    53 years in the business.

                    THINK how much money it would take to get YOU to permanently end YOUR career, and risk prison, and do the math.

                    Very, very rare.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Marchegiano
                      Boxing until the bodies takes over kind of features fixed fights as a main stay and I'd go as far to say it was common practice and open secret until around the time black men started to challenge white men regularly.

                      I think it is rational to believe the industry didn't stop but rather took pains to hide it.

                      Especially since as soon as inclusive boxing starts so does disputed champions, buying ranks and belts, and promoters' marinations.


                      Boxing invented WWE and in fact if you want to go pre-greek with it, that's all you have record of. Planned, fixed, events that put over Pharoah.


                      I'd assume it's about even with PEDs.
                      Hmmmmm. Dude.

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