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All you guys picking Roy and not one of you has the balls or knowledge to defend that pick. Lol, you guys are pathetic.
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looks like jones takes this
ye im so pathetic TS
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RJJ is the better p4p but Billy Conn is a little known boxer from the past and a HIGHLY underrated one.
Yeah he lost to Joe Louis twice but he was a much smaller man and almost knocked Louis out several times. And this was Prime Louis.Comment
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I think Conn may have gone into fight mode after being hit by a right that seemed to hurt him or at least get his attention....and then having Joe continue his assault. Conn may have started to throw in defense to get Joe to think twice about attacking and/or to bluff that he wasn't actually hurt by it. This was in the 13th round.
I don't know, I wonder if he recovered from that punch as well as the others that would connect moments later... before later in the round getting tagged with an even bigger right that shook him and seemed to lose strength/energy in his legs to move.
I think some fighters naturally fight back when they are hurt. Not necessarily hurt badly, but just hurt enough that their brain tells them to fight back or you are going to die.
If you notice from the start of round 13, which is 6:18 {Time} on this video...Conn is being patient and boxing Joe from a slight distance. He isn't going for the kill after hurting Joe in the previous round. At 7:18 {time} in this video, pay attention to what happens and then finish the rest of the round. The big right that shook him came at 8:04
A little side note with this fight:
There can be little doubt that Joe Louis took Billy Conn lightly. He had defeated all opposition, usually in impressive fashion up to this point. Louis main concern was that he would be criticized for picking on someone who was considered “too small.” Conn, at 174 pounds was the lightest challenger to fight for the heavyweight title since Georges Carpentier who weighed only 172 against Jack Dempsey. The lightest men to win the title were Jim Corbett’s 178 in his knockout over John L. Sullivan and Bob Fitzsimmons official weight of 167 over Corbett, although he was certainly much lighter. Tommy Burns weighed 180 when he took the title from Marvin Hart.
In his autobiography Louis stated that in order to stave off such talk he made the mistake of dehydrating himself prior to the fight so that could weigh in at less than 200 pounds. “I always use to lay off the day before a fight. But the last day I trained, dieted and drank as little water as possible. Chappie (his trainer Jack Blackburn) was mad as hell.” Joe’s sense of fairness left him critically drained as the fight progressed.
Dr. Kathleen Cronin points out that, “Dehydration is a condition that occurs when a person loses more fluids than he or she takes in. Some athletes, such as wrestlers who need to reach a certain weight to compete, dehydrate themselves on purpose to drop weight quickly before a big game or event. This practice usually hurts more than it helps, though. Athletes who do this feel weaker, which affects performance.”
The source/link above talks more about the fightLast edited by Benny Leonard; 10-12-2009, 08:59 AM.Comment
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considering no on knows billy conn, that's proof enough roy jones is a greater all time great
and the **** @ ''there are very few billy conn fights on tape but there are many articles''
articles dont mean ****Comment
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clearly a nicey veiled bait thread.
What's next jab, who's better midget wolgast or erik morles?
Video & analysis of that fighter > Old newspaper accounts & analysis of that fighter. Because we all know journalist never embellish or hype up anything.
Question should have been who's a better fighter. Based on benny leonard's video, its clearly Roy.Last edited by DonTaseMeBrah; 10-12-2009, 09:10 AM.Comment
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Articles do mean a lot, just because you cannot see the event happening yourself. Doesn't mean it's not real.Comment
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Only 2 F'ing votes for Billy Conn? Wow...Comment
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