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  • JAB5239
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tom Locz


    Enough said.
    (sigh) I was hoping for just a wee bit more.........but thanks Tom.

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      #22
      Originally posted by JAB5239
      (sigh) I was hoping for just a wee bit more.........but thanks Tom.
      I'm in the process, just reading news articles and other bits of information on him.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Tom Locz
        Jab, can you tell me why one of the names on Conn's resume - Lee Savold, held the British and EBU heavyweight titles?

        I actually knew nothing about that. I just ran to boxrec to see what I could find real quick and the only thing I came up with was that savold was recognized by the BBBC as the world heavyweight champion after ko'ing Bruce Wood****, who I am not particularly familiar with. Nothing on the British or EBU titles though. Can you shed some light?

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          #24
          Conn will forever be remembered for his near-upset of heavyweight champion Joe Louis on June 18, 1941 at the Polo Grounds in New York. Conn weighed in at 169 1/2 lbs and was outweighed by 30 pounds. Louis had beaten every top heavyweight and was in the prime of his career. Conn out-boxed and out-slugged Louis for 12 rounds and almost sent Louis to the floor at the end of the 12th. Overconfident and ahead on points going into the 13th round, Conn told his manager that he was going to knockout Louis. Ray told him that he was winning the fight and to keep boxing but Conn was determined to win by knockout. Conn came out slugging and was winning the first half of the round, but he was fighting carelessly. The bigger and stronger Louis eventually hurt Conn and after a number of unanswered blows he knocked out Conn with two seconds left in the round. Joe Louis said this fight was the toughest of his career and that Conn was the best light heavyweight he ever saw. This fight is often referred to as the greatest fight of all time.
          What could of been...

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            #25
            Originally posted by Tom Locz
            I'm in the process, just reading news articles and other bits of information on him.
            Its all good. I look forward to anything you've got!

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              #26
              By the age of 21 Conn had defeated 9 present or former world champions. Almost one third of his fights were against title holders. Although often outweighed, Conn never lost to a heavyweight with the exception of Joe Louis.
              He started at Welterweight and nearly beat the best at heavyweight, with the exception of Louis who nearly did actually beat if he wasn't so careless.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Tom Locz
                What could of been...
                "Whats the use of being Irish if you can't e ******".

                -Billy Conn after getting ko'd by Joe Louis in their first fight

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by JAB5239

                  I actually knew nothing about that. I just ran to boxrec to see what I could find real quick and the only thing I came up with was that savold was recognized by the BBBC as the world heavyweight champion after ko'ing Bruce Wood****, who I am not particularly familiar with. Nothing on the British or EBU titles though. Can you shed some light?
                  I was just looking around on Wikipedia as you do and saw this;

                  Lee Savold (born Lee Hulver March 22, 1916 – May 14, 1972) was a heavyweight boxer who held the British and European (EBU) version of the World Heavyweight championship between 1950 and 1951 and was a leading contender in the forties and early fifties.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by JAB5239
                    "Whats the use of being Irish if you can't e ******".

                    -Billy Conn after getting ko'd by Joe Louis in their first fight
                    It's a shame he fought Louis again after the war.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Tom Locz
                      It's a shame he fought Louis again after the war.
                      While his performance against Louis was great, its what he did at middleweight that really impresses me.

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