Vergil Ortiz vs Tim Tszyu in August 3.

[kafkod]

It's almost like Skills Challenge promotion is a corporation is having a promotional deal that is so under the market price it would be viewed as corporate dumping. Nobody has cards this deep. The closest was King and he only did this with his fighters and the public got the volume but not anything close to this depth.

I could be wrong about this, but I'm like 90% certain that Skills Challenge have been elbowed aside by Turki and the Saudi General Entertainment Authority, aka, the Saudi government.

What's interesting about this show is that it will be stacked with PBC fighters but it looks like Eddie Hearn will be the nominal lead promoter. The de facto lead promoter, of course, is Turki.

[Spray_resistant]

Yes. MoonCheese was talking about this the other day, and how King just made the fights rather than this modern 'marination' nonsense.

'Marination' is just code for 'milk the fans while dangling the carrot'.

I remember when they tried to marinate Gamboa/JuanMa......that worked out great for promoters huh? lol

[dan-b]

King made fights by getting fighters to sign unfinished contracts through making verbal, handshake, promises he never attempted to fulfill. Which is why he's been sued so much. He'd fill in the contracts after he had their signature. His son was their manager, he was the promoter, so he and his son could do "deals" without even including the fighter in the conversation.

So, yeah, Ali, Mike, etc. Maybe even more recent guys like Bermane, they got a reason to hate Don King. Why TF fans hate Don King for making the best fights in boxing history and making them the cheapest PPVs in the top sold/rev-generating PPVs of all time is well beyond me.


Floyd-Arum charged you dummies 100 bucks, sold like 5 mil, made 500 mil. For Money-PacMan

King for Ali-Foreman charged us 2 bucks, sold 50 million views, made 100 mil. Adjusted for inflation that's charged about a 10 dollars PPV in 24, sold 50 million, which equals ... That's right ****ers, 500 million.


We got shafted. Floyd gets paid better than King would have paid him, but that's out of your wallet.



So, while I do understand, I think it is ****** to hold them in such regard we end up paying more for a lesser quality event. regardless of if Floyd the GOAT or not, timing. King gave guys prime vs prime fights. Heaps. for cheap.



Because we are their fans we blame the sanctioning bodies for boxers' corruption.

Because we are their fans we blame promoters for boxers' greed.

Because we are their fans we blame matchmakers and other boxers for boxers' fear.


Maybe it's really the guys who do the drugs, miss weight, use illegal tactics, take authorities to court to use their own rules against them, and avoid anyone else with any name or presence to them that are actually the problem


... of course it's the fans to enable boxers to be such ungrateful, entitled, bitchy little ****s.


fans

Boxing fans are haunted by the fact Mayweather - Pacquiao didn't happen in 2010. I've never felt quite the same about boxing since.

I know the cynical economic argument is that they made more money in 2015. Well, maybe. Or maybe a 2010 fight was a classic requiring an immediate rematch.

Then they 'marinate' a rubber match for two years to complete a trilogy in 2012 and make way more than £500mil across the three fights.

[crimsonfalcon07]

That's a card worth paying for...