I think history says otherwise. Several fighters have been taken to the top training with their fathers. Losing a few fights at the top level isn't enough evidence to say they don't work.
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Originally posted by Pac=Duran View PostI think it has worked once with Felix Trinidad and is father. Almost every other time its messed up and the Father is just obviously just living vicariously through his son.
It's always a bad decision.
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Lol yall so extreme. Devin & Bill made it to #1 at 135 & #2 at 140 & now they lost a fight so all that success just disappeared? Thats a trash ass take on a 25yr old overachiever already.
Ppl were crucifying & he ain't sh^t-ing on Nery for coming in over & KOing a guy he already KO'd but somehow in this situation Ryan not coming in on weight doesn't play into anything & its just the Haney's who ain't sh^t.
Make it make sense lol.
Maybe...just maybe...Ryan was better on the night & no one is trash at fighting or as trainers.billeau2 bballchump11 like this.
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Originally posted by SilverMiles View PostI think history says otherwise. Several fighters have been taken to the top training with their fathers. Losing a few fights at the top level isn't enough evidence to say they don't work.real raw likes this.
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I think it can work, but there are more bad examples than good. I think it's best for the amateurs as no trainer is going to show as much attention to a young, nobody, broke, fighter than his father. But they should switch to a real trainer once they turn pro. Jose Benavidez sorta did this when he went pro and trained with Freddie Roach. Unfortunately, Roach couldn't give him enough attention.
In fact, Bill was looking to find another trainer for Devin years back, but Devin wanted his dad to stay on.
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You can't say Haney is not a success because of his father. I'm not making a personal judgment here although as a father with two boys I have some empathy.
Where I fall down here and scratch my head regarding Bill Haney, is I would never tell another kid if he dies he dies, or some of the other nasty things Bill Haney has said to opponents.
They're all young guys. You're a father. You really can be supportive without compromising taking care of your own. You can even be a little bit promotion oriented to sell the fight and say some things.
But here's the thing about Bill Haney, he actually coaches and provides technical information to his son. That's what a coach should be doing. Yeah you get guys who can provide emotional support, that's a great thing like Derek James I suppose, but you also need a guy who can tell you things like roll to the side when the jab comes, duck under the hook, etc etc. Bill Haney does that for Devin.real raw likes this.
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Originally posted by Eff Pandas View PostLol yall so extreme. Devin & Bill made it to #1 at 135 & #2 at 140 & now they lost a fight so all that success just disappeared? Thats a trash ass take on a 25yr old overachiever already.
Ppl were crucifying & he ain't sh^t-ing on Nery for coming in over & KOing a guy he already KO'd but somehow in this situation Ryan not coming in on weight doesn't play into anything & its just the Haney's who ain't sh^t.
Make it make sense lol.
Maybe...just maybe...Ryan was better on the night & no one is trash at fighting or as trainers.
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Lost one fight....now it doesn't work..... God I hate boxing fansreal raw Eff Pandas like this.
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