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  • garfios
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    #31
    Originally posted by rrayvez
    Bivol hadn’t ko’d anyone in years before the canelo fight, he’s not a ko puncher. That’s actually why canelo picked him. He misjudged the scenario because Bivol hadn’t looked good in his 2 previous fights also. Canelo wouldn’t have taken that risk if he knew how good Bivol actually was. That version of canelo is the same version we always see, the difference was the opponent was better and didn’t allow him to dictate the pace with his 1-2 punches at a time the way his lesser opposition has in the past. He forced canelo to fight fast, punched back every time canelo threw a punch and exposed his lack of stamina which has always been an issue. Of the two, canelo is actually the overrated one as far as actual ability.
    He has read this before, all the canelo fanboys. The miscalculation by ginger's was that he didn't know bivol has always fought at his opposition level.

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      #32
      Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
      I rate Bivol very high as do many others. Leading up to the Canelo fight, there were a lot of people who felt Bivol was going to win. Same when he took on Zurdo. He has elite use of distance and timing in my opinion.
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      Someone can look at Beterbiev's record with all the KOs, they can watch him on TV and think they understand how hard he hits...as I've said before, I viewed Beterbiev much differently after seeing him live and listening to the concussive nature of his punches. I've seen hundreds of live fights and never heard anything like Beterbiev's thudding impact.

      Gvozdyk was a helluva fighter, he destroyed Stevenson, Yuniesky and Chilemba. Gvozdyk didn't quit that night against Beterbiev, he was physically beaten until his body wouldn't respond anymore.

      If there's a man to beat Artur, it's Bivol. I think Dmitri will be ahead on the cards but can he avoid the same punishment and can his body will him past the final round? I'm not so sure.
      well put man well put .... ya put it in perspecitve Voz was a force and a fighter in the ring as you said against Stevie and the others i was surprised when he hung um up but he did and time waits for no one as the song goes (Rolling Stones) and it wont wait for any man Better included one day he will gas out start to fade is this the fight? Will Bivol make him bend to his will ? I still picture Better all that blood running down his face and continuing on and taking care of bussiness so for fights like that and many others of his ....until he shows otherwise he is the man to beat and he as you told has the power special power...

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        #33
        It's always takes from people that one guy or the other beat, and you already know what they're going to say. Gvodzyk has to pick Beterbiev because he lost to Artur.

        If they asked Canelo, he'd likely to tell them to F-off, but if he did answer, he'd say that he really beat Bivol, but that Bivol will beat Beterbiev.

        The only one that might have an unbiased take is the guy who fought both of them, Joe Smith Jr, although he likely picks the guy who knocked him out.

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          #34
          Ofc Bivol isnt overrated , the man convincingly beat a future HOF and one of the best in his era, Gvozdyk better be ready for Benny or he will be stopped like Arthur did to him ,only this time by a dude making his debut at 175.

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          • Motofan
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            #35
            Totally agree with this assessment.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Monty Fisto

              I favour Beterbiev, but I think you've hit on something when you said "survive." If Bivol wins, he does it by managing to survive.

              One of these fighters is going in with the mentality of wiping the other out. One is going in trying to see the final bell and get a decision.
              Hearns went in looking to wipe out Leonard. Julian Jackson went in looking to wipe out Mike McCallum. Tyson went in looking to wipe out Holyfield. Gomez went in looking to wipe out Sanchez. Trinidad went in looking to wipe out Hopkins.

              What happens when the puncher can't wipe out the boxer or bend him to his will?

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                #37
                Originally posted by PBR Streetgang
                I rate Bivol very high as do many others. Leading up to the Canelo fight, there were a lot of people who felt Bivol was going to win. Same when he took on Zurdo. He has elite use of distance and timing in my opinion.
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                Someone can look at Beterbiev's record with all the KOs, they can watch him on TV and think they understand how hard he hits...as I've said before, I viewed Beterbiev much differently after seeing him live and listening to the concussive nature of his punches. I've seen hundreds of live fights and never heard anything like Beterbiev's thudding impact.

                Gvozdyk was a helluva fighter, he destroyed Stevenson, Yuniesky and Chilemba. Gvozdyk didn't quit that night against Beterbiev, he was physically beaten until his body wouldn't respond anymore.

                If there's a man to beat Artur, it's Bivol. I think Dmitri will be ahead on the cards but can he avoid the same punishment and can his body will him past the final round? I'm not so sure.
                They sound like gunshots, don't they? I've never seen someone get so much power without winding up. I've sent people training videos where his punches sound like ******* blasts, and they always say "oh that's just the echo." No. That's for real.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BlackRobb

                  Hearns went in looking to wipe out Leonard. Julian Jackson went in looking to wipe out Mike McCallum. Tyson went in looking to wipe out Holyfield. Gomez went in looking to wipe out Sanchez. Trinidad went in looking to wipe out Hopkins.

                  What happens when the puncher can't wipe out the boxer or bend him to his will?
                  This fairy tale has been told 20 times before
                  lmfao

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by MulaKO

                    This fairy tale has been told 20 times before
                    lmfao
                    Too many to count.

                    The wrecking ball gets wrecked.

                    Cuevas vs. Hearns

                    Prince Naseem vs. Barrera

                    Foreman vs. Ali

                    Foreman vs. Young

                    McClellan vs. Benn

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BlackRobb

                      Too many to count.

                      The wrecking ball gets wrecked.

                      Cuevas vs. Hearns

                      Prince Naseem vs. Barrera

                      Foreman vs. Ali

                      Foreman vs. Young

                      McClellan vs. Benn

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                      War Beterbiev

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