What are some fights where legendary fighters heavily fouled.

[djtmal]

I mean, you can deny reality all you want if it makes you feel better

What makes you feel better, is putting on your cape and utility belt.

45,000+ post, Floyd Caped Crusader

[Marchegiano]

I only counted 19


I'm ****ing with y'all I ain't count ****.

[djtmal]

No, no. I estimated 5 per round on average.

I then went and watched the fight, and counted every clinch.

Did you use both hands or you had a clicker.

60 holds

[djtmal]

you can go outside and say the sky isn't blue while you're at it.

Essentially thats what you did. You claimed Floyd held 5 times on average per round, then when I brought to your attention that was 60 holds total, you actually came back and claimed oops you watched the whole fight (which I don't believe) and come up with a lower number.

You do all of that to save Floyd from excessive holding.

[djtmal]

Whitaker low blowing Chavez

I remember Chavez excessively hitting low, then Whitaker returned the favor but with a little more mustard on it.

[IronDanHamza]

Did you use both hands or you had a clicker.

60 holds

No I just counted them as they happened and then wrote the total of the round down when the round finished. Then tallied them up at the end and the total was 24.

You keep harping on this number 60 for some reason when the number is 24. I can't decide if it's more weird or pathetic.

[IronDanHamza]

Essentially thats what you did. You claimed Floyd held 5 times on average per round, then when I brought to your attention that was 60 holds total, you actually came back and claimed oops you watched the whole fight (which I don't believe) and come up with a lower number.

You do all of that to save Floyd from excessive holding.

That is almost the polar opposite to what I did. I don't think you have a strong command of the English language. You don't seem to understand what the words you use mean.

You "brought to my attention" that 5x12 is 60? No, that's something that's known as "Maths". I was very aware that 5 clinches per round on average eqautes to 60 in total. That wasn't breaking news from you. 60 clinches in a 12 round fight is not excessive.

I went back and actually counted them so we have an actual number to which it's 24. You're now denying that I did that What a joke. Why don't you go and count them yourself and tell me the real number if it's not 24?

I'll do it again and get the times for them if that makes it easier for your primitive brain to compute It only takes 36 minutes.

[djtmal]

No I just counted them as they happened and then wrote the total of the round down when the round finished. Then tallied them up at the end and the total was 24.

You keep harping on this number 60 for some reason when the number is 24. I can't decide if it's more weird or pathetic.

I think it is weird, and pathetic, that you retracted your statement of 5 avg holds per round, because I brought to your attention that it is 60 total holds.

Then it became downright pathetic, when you realized that 60 holds in a fight is an awful lot of holding, and you felt the need to throw on the fight to save Floyd by counting how many times he held in a fight.

"I then went and watched the fight, and counted every clinch."

Now THAT is weird and pathetic.

Do me a favor. Throw on Floyd vs. Madonna 2 and tell us how many times Floyd clinched in that one.

[IronDanHamza]

I think it is weird, and pathetic, that you retracted your statement of 5 avg holds per round, because I brought to your attention that it is 60 total holds.

I didn't retract anything. Do you know what the word "retract" means?

I said that if I had to guess, it's probably 5 clinches a round on average. That's not a statement, that's a guess. I don't know how I can make that easier for you to understand.

Then after going to gathering the evidence, I got the exact number.

That's not a retraction.

Then it became downright pathetic, when you realized that 60 holds in a fight is an awful lot of holding, and you felt the need to throw on the fight to save Floyd by counting how many times he held in a fight.

"I then went and watched the fight, and counted every clinch."

Now THAT is weird and pathetic.

Do me a favor. Throw on Floyd vs. Madonna 2 and tell us how many times Floyd clinched in that one.

60 holds is not a lot of holding. That's 5 per round. That's not a lot. I don't know where you're lost on that. That's relatively low if anything.

Well yeah I went and investigated it. How is that pathetic? It took 36 minutes out of my day and I means that the actual number is established in a discussion. That's something known as "evidence".

The number is 24. Which is objectively low. But for some odd reason you won't acknowledge that.

[djtmal]

60 holds is not a lot of holding. That's 5 per round.

For you its not a lot of holding because its Floyd we talking about.

Believe me if it was James Toney you would be saying the opposite.