Only a few guys beat Joe Joyce

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #21
    Originally posted by Toffee

    Joyce isn't fast enough or skilled enough to walk Usyk down. Usyk wins a very wide points decision while making Joyce look ridiculous.
    No shame in losing to Usyk. I think the guy last night loses to Agit tho. And I'm a fan of Joyce, but he can't fight as big as he was last night vs a top 20 guy/guy who can move a lil or he might be catching an L. Joyce needs to take sh^t more seriously as a 38 year old guy whos lost 2 of his last 3 fights.

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    • BodyBagz
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      #22
      Originally posted by Atypicalbrit

      Shut up man it's getting old

      It wasn't worth watching in THIS era, there how about that.

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      Become a mod or ignore me
      This HW era is a clownshow.

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        #23
        Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer

        JJ is not Zhang or Dubois, he has a great gas tank.
        He's a plodder who throws arm punches
        Luckily for him, most guys are pretty much lamer ducks
        This era is pituful.

        Usyk shouldn't have any problems

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          #24
          Originally posted by NorvernRob

          He actually has decent enough footwork and engine to keep him right in front of his opponent all night. Coupled with his workrate he’s always going to land quite a lot and be able to work people over.

          The obvious problem is that he can’t move his head, so put a puncher like Zhang in front of him and he just ate too many big shots. His chin might be cracked now, but anyone who hasn’t got a massive punch is going to have trouble with Joyce. You either drop him quick or you have the mobility, skill and engine to pick him off for 12 rounds and outpoint him.

          JJ hadn’t suddenly turned into a terrible fighter, he’s just slow with a terrible defence. He was good enough to beat Dubois and Parker so he’s obviously no mug.
          I will just have to wait for this era to retire and hope for the best.

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            #25
            Team Oilskin does to Juggers what they did to Windmill and Big **** ; Negates all their positives and cruises to an easy win.

            ​​​2024 Parker is Prime Parker. 2024 Joyce is a shadow of his former self.

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            • Haka
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              #26
              Only a few ? Yes you are a gatekeeper boxer now.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Haka
                Only a few ? Yes you are a gatekeeper boxer now.
                He is clearly no gatekeeper. he has lost against 1 guy.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by pollywog
                  Team Oilskin does to Juggers what they did to Windmill and Big **** ; Negates all their positives and cruises to an easy win.

                  ​​​2024 Parker is Prime Parker. 2024 Joyce is a shadow of his former self.
                  Man, did you forget Joyce already destroyed Parker?

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                  • kiaba360
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas

                    No shame in losing to Usyk. I think the guy last night loses to Agit tho. And I'm a fan of Joyce, but he can't fight as big as he was last night vs a top 20 guy/guy who can move a lil or he might be catching an L. Joyce needs to take sh^t more seriously as a 38 year old guy whos lost 2 of his last 3 fights.
                    Do you doubt that he took Zhang seriously in the rematch? I ask the question because Joyce was also 280lbs in that fight too.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kiaba360

                      Do you doubt that he took Zhang seriously in the rematch? I ask the question because Joyce was also 280lbs in that fight too.
                      I mean idk if Joyce takes anyone THAT seriously is one of the issues I had with him before he took an L. The fact he was primarily 260ish max his whole career til these last few fights (his 3 highest weights are in his last 4 fights) isn't a good sign he's taking sh^t seriously.

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