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  • Dr. Z
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    #41
    Originally posted by Tatabanya

    Same here, at the end of the day. It's more Joshua's fight to lose than Hrgovic's to win. As I said several times in past threads, I see Hrgovic just slightly above the B/C-level heavyweights. Guido Vianello and the likes, I mean, you get the picture.


    He is much better than Gudio. To compare the two is laughable. He is a legit top ten ring magazine rated heavyweight , and talents such as Parker, Ruiz, Hunter and company passed on his manager opportunity to fight him. Grade B or C?

    I do not doubt he has his share if detractors, some of whom are haters others think he is just sightly above Guido. I get the picture.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Dr. Z



      He is much better than Gudio. To compare the two is laughable. He is a legit top ten ring magazine rated heavyweight , and talents such as Parker, Ruiz, Hunter and company passed on his manager opportunity to fight him. Grade B or C?

      I do not doubt he has his share if detractors, some of whom are haters others think he is just sightly above Guido. I get the picture.
      "Slightly above" still means that I consider him better than Vianello - not a difficult task, indeed

      Seriously, I do give Hrgovic a puncher's chance if he fights AJ (and I'm NOT a Joshua fan, mind you). As always, I'm willing and ready to eat a good slice of humble pie if I am proven wrong at the end, and Filip turns out to be a true champion.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Dr. Z
        I do not doubt he has his share if detractors, some of whom are haters others think he is just sightly above Guido. I get the picture.
        Also, whatever the level of Filip's detractors, let me tell you that I respect your loyalty to him very much, especially because I never see you losing your cool and calling people names just to discuss a fighter.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Tatabanya

          "Slightly above" still means that I consider him better than Vianello - not a difficult task, indeed

          Seriously, I do give Hrgovic a puncher's chance if he fights AJ (and I'm NOT a Joshua fan, mind you). As always, I'm willing and ready to eat a good slice of humble pie if I am proven wrong at the end, and Filip turns out to be a true champion.



          Well, I don't know your view of Vianello, but he wasn't viewed as the #1 amateur at super heavyweight. Nor has he fought and beaten amateur or pro completion Hrgovic. I don't know any smart fan who considers Hrgovic a " grade C " heavyweight. Are you trolling me a tad? I'll serve you pie. How do you like your humble pie, with extra crow or crusty?

          A world champion ( IBF ) is next for Hrgovic.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Dr. Z
            Well, I don't know your view of Vianello, but he wasn't viewed as the #1 amateur at super heavyweight. Nor has he fought and beaten amateur or pro completion Hrgovic. I don't know any smart fan who considers Hrgovic a " grade C " heavyweight. Are you trolling me a tad? I'll serve you pie. How do you like your humble pie, with extra crow or crusty?

            A world champion ( IBF ) is next for Hrgovic.​
            I'm not trolling you. Did you read my last reply to you? I mean what I wrote, no kidding.

            My view of Vianello is negative, he's a C-level heavyweight, but I don't rate Hrgovic like him. Still, for all of his background, you must admit that Filip is not really impressing as a professional. But he's got the time to prove me wrong. Winning a belt will be a nice step up, even though one must also consider HOW you win it. If he becomes IBF champ in a stinker, I'm not respecting him more only because he won a trinket, if you get my point.

            A pie is a pie... I'll have it crusty!

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              #46
              Anthony Joshua has been the favourite for every single fight, he has ever fought in 'Accept maybe Joshua vs Usyk II'.

              Most people would most likely back Joshua to beat Hrgovic 'But for sure it is a live and serious fight'.

              This is not one of those type of fights 'Where people can back track, and discredit Joshua if he wins'.

              Hrgovic is proven as a Amateur winning the Olympic Bronze Medal, and he has carried on this trajectory into the professional ranks 'With big wins over Zhang, although yes it was a close fight'.

              The generation of Heavyweights just below Fury, Joshua and Wilder 'Hrgovic is one of the main fighters from that generation. Hrgovic's aspiration as a fighter for a long time, has been to challenge and dethrone Fury, WIlder of Joshua'.

              Anthony Joshua as I have stated in some of my previous posts 'Joshua is one of the mountains of this Heavyweight era. There have been three Heavyweight mountains, fighters who all contenders aspired to challenge and conquer'.

              Note: Flip Hrgovic as a fighter shares similar traits with Anthony Joshua 'Both of their games is built up from having solid fundamentals, being technically correct and not producing a high number of enforced errors'.

              I can envision this fight, being a very high level skill for skill fight 'Not a messy, wrestling type of fight'. And I just believe in those type fights, if Joshua continues building his momentum in training 'Joshua will excel in those match ups, against most of the other Heavyweights in the Division'.

              Although Joshua predominately prefers to fight at mid to long range, Joshua has been displaying a improved ability to wrestle on the inside vs his opponents. I have always thought that Joshua needed to develop this aspect of his game, especially as a Super Heavyweight 'It is a basic skill, being able to wrestle on the inside and disrupt your opponents work'.

              So to conclude: Joshua will most likely be the favourite, but that does not mean it is not a serious challenge 'It is a solid fight' etc.




              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-15-2024, 11:38 AM.

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                #47
                About a 7, young and big heavyweight with pedigree. I would only slightly favor AJ to win by a controversial decision or very late stoppage.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                  Anthony Joshua has been the favourite for every single fight, he has ever fought in 'Accept maybe Joshua vs Usyk II'.

                  Most people would most likely back Joshua to beat Hrgovic 'But for sure it is a live and serious fight'.

                  This is not one of those type of fights 'Where people can back track, and discredit Joshua if he wins'.

                  Hrgovic is proven as a Amateur winning the Olympic Bronze Medal, and he has carried on this trajectory into the professional ranks 'With big wins over Zhang, although yes it was a close fight'.

                  The generation of Heavyweights just below Fury, Joshua and Wilder 'Hrgovic is one of the main fighters from that generation. Hrgovic's aspiration as a fighter for a long time, has been to challenge and dethrone Fury, WIlder of Joshua'.

                  Anthony Joshua as I have stated in some of my previous posts 'Joshua is one of the mountains of this Heavyweight era. There have been three Heavyweight mountains, fighters who all contenders aspired to challenge and conquer'.

                  Note: Flip Hrgovic as a fighter shares similar traits with Anthony Joshua 'Both of their games is built up from having solid fundamentals, being technically correct and not producing a high number of enforced errors'.

                  I can envision this fight, being a very high level skill for skill fight 'Not a messy, wrestling type of fight'. And I just believe in those type fights, if Joshua continues building his momentum in training 'Joshua will excel in those match ups, against most of the other Heavyweights in the Division'.

                  Although Joshua predominately prefers to fight at mid to long range, Joshua has been displaying a improved ability to wrestle on the inside vs his opponents. I have always thought that Joshua needed to develop this aspect of his game, especially as a Super Heavyweight 'It is a basic skill, being able to wrestle on the inside and disrupt your opponents work'.

                  So to conclude: Joshua will most likely be the favourite, but that does not mean it is not a serious challenge 'It is a solid fight' etc.



                  Anyone who saw the saw the Olympic match knows he won that fight and beat Yoka. AJ is not a bum, but he is clearly a level below Usyk. We don't know that about Hrgovic. Both Fury and Wilder are frauds who agreed not to tell on each others drugs test.... so.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Tatabanya

                    I'm not trolling you. Did you read my last reply to you? I mean what I wrote, no kidding.

                    My view of Vianello is negative, he's a C-level heavyweight, but I don't rate Hrgovic like him. Still, for all of his background, you must admit that Filip is not really impressing as a professional. But he's got the time to prove me wrong. Winning a belt will be a nice step up, even though one must also consider HOW you win it. If he becomes IBF champ in a stinker, I'm not respecting him more only because he won a trinket, if you get my point.

                    A pie is a pie... I'll have it crusty!
                    There is an extra $1.50 charge for cursty pie's and a 2% of the bill charge if you are using a credit card. But I have some pull with the owner. For you this pie is that four letter word that starts with F as in Free.

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #50
                      Panda the champ for a reason.


                      I am no champ, so, I says, 0%


                      **** Fil and every other Frankenstein **** what's ever thought they can saunter through a HW title.

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