Comments Thread For: Ward: Canelo's Refusal to Fight Benavidez Would Taint His Legacy

[LAchargers373]

Hahahahahahahaha. Holy shlt. I thought you clocked on to it and left it alone. You've just made my day. I forgot about this. Fishing is great.

I lied about Martinez's knee in the hope that you would research it and come back to prove me wrong. I then point out that you had no problem researching that so you can now go and research Mugabi's world class victories and show them to me considering he's an elite fighter, a HOF, and has the same quality of wins as Golovkin does according to you. Hahaha.

You're a wally brain. But a wally brain who's just made me laugh. Thank you. I really mean that. I'm using this tactic from now on.

I'll get back to you on which rounds Murray won. But looking at your rounds and score card, they stink.

Bwahahaha dude…Murray HIMSELF said “I didn’t do enough to win the fight tonite”. He was in the ring. I scored the fight round by round for you I included the swing rounds I addressed your little “2nd knockdown” claim lol. All any one has to do is watch the fight to see YDKSAB. Even Merton Murray would tell you YDKSAB

[Sid-Knee]

most people did NOT score it for murray your a clown lmao.

Most people did score it to Murray though. It was a hideous robbery. Watching it again reminded me of Leaderman's ugly scorecard. Nearly everyone on the forums agreed that his and the judges cards were a joke. I'll be proving that here.

They didn't cancel the second KD on the replay due to Murray standing on his foot. They said it was a slip. You can clearly see it wasn't. That's why it was so controversial. It clearly was due to a left hook then a shot behind the ear with the right hand.

1) Martinez
2) Murray
3) Murray
4) Murray ( You can tell Martinez starts to really feel the heat as he makes out a shot on the thigh was on a shot on his b2lls)
5) Murray
6) Murray
7) Martinez
8) Murray 10/8 round
9) Martinez
10) Murray 10/8 round
11) Martinez
12) Murray

Now that we've both got our rounds here, we'll go over the first round we disagree on which is the 2nd round. You put the time on the clock each of them land clean scoring punches to the body or head, and i'll do the same. Then we'll go over it until both are satisfied or you deflect like a loon. Martinez mostly flicks his shots at Murray's gloves all night. That means Murray has effective defence while Martinez has ineffective offence. Do you even know what a scoring punch is?

See you tomorrow.

Where are Mugabi's world class wins that put him as an elite fighter where his wins are as good as Golovkin's and has him up there with Hearns and SRL as well????

[LAchargers373]

Most people did score it to Murray though. It was a hideous robbery. Watching it again reminded me of Leaderman's ugly scorecard. Nearly everyone on the forums agreed that his and the judges cards were a joke. I'll be proving that here.

They didn't cancel the second KD on the replay due to Murray standing on his foot. They said it was a slip. You can clearly see it wasn't. That's why it was so controversial. It clearly was due to a left hook then a shot behind the ear with the right hand.

1) Martinez
2) Murray
3) Murray
4) Murray ( You can tell Martinez starts to really feel the heat as he makes out a shot on the thigh was on a shot on his b2lls)
5) Murray
6) Murray
7) Martinez
8) Murray 10/8 round
9) Martinez
10) Murray 10/8 round
11) Martinez
12) Murray

Now that we've both got our rounds here, we'll go over the first round we disagree on which is the 2nd round. You put the time on the clock each of them land clean scoring punches to the body or head, and i'll do the same. Then we'll go over it until both are satisfied or you deflect like a loon. Martinez mostly flicks his shots at Murray's gloves all night. That means Murray has effective defence while Martinez has ineffective offence. Do you even know what a scoring punch is?

See you tomorrow.

Where are Mugabi's world class wins that put him as an elite fighter where his wins are as good as Golovkin's and has him up there with Hearns and SRL as well????

More lies. Murray stepped on his feet like 3x in that exchange lol. Why do you think he didn’t complain about it not being called a KD? Like are you that delusional dude? Murray HIMSELF admits he lost the fight….even if u give him the KD which he didn’t get he still loses 115-113 lol. There’s literally no way he won the fight that’s why there no controversy. As I said even Murray admits he lost you should to. Your money is gone. It was a bad bet mate let it go lmao

[billeau2]

Absolutely it will. He already looks like a coward and the whole boxing world sees it. He doesn’t even want to rematch bivol and that makes him look like a coward too. Canelo is a good fighter but he is nowhere near what the boxing establishment has made him out to be. Benevidez making him look like he has a yellow streak down his back a mile long. I think he would rather sing “im a little teapot” in a skirt for all to see rather than fight Benevidez

Great point!

[Sid-Knee]

More lies. Murray stepped on his feet like 3x in that exchange lol. Why do you think he didn’t complain about it not being called a KD? Like are you that delusional dude? Murray HIMSELF admits he lost the fight….even if u give him the KD which he didn’t get he still loses 115-113 lol. There’s literally no way he won the fight that’s why there no controversy. As I said even Murray admits he lost you should to. Your money is gone. It was a bad bet mate let it go lmao

Not only is Murray not stepping on his foot in this image, but that isn't the moment he went down. This image is before the left hook landed then the right hand to send him down. Even those on the WBC replay monitor said it was a slip. Nothing to do with any feet getting tangled. Therefore, how can i be lying?

So you're running away and not going over the punch connects in the 2nd round to prove your point? I'm willing to do so. Funny that isn't it? If you're correct, you'd be the one justifying your position by proving Martinez landed more cleaner shots in these rounds. But the thing is, i know for a fact he didn't. Most of what he threw were flicking shots to the gloves. Murray was the one landing nearly all the clean punches.

I'll give you one more chance. Refuse, and you lose this discussion. If it's true what you're saying, then show me with actual evidence like i can with Murray. It's pretty simple.

Where are those world class fighters for Mugabi as well? How many times do you need to be asked with this? Let me see the names that match Golovkin and have him up there as an elite fighter. What seems to be the problem?

[LAchargers373]

Not only is Murray not stepping on his foot in this image, but that isn't the moment he went down. This image is before the left hook landed then the right hand to send him down. Even those on the WBC replay monitor said it was a slip. Nothing to do with any feet getting tangled. Therefore, how can i be lying?

So you're running away and not going over the punch connects in the 2nd round to prove your point? I'm willing to do so. Funny that isn't it? If you're correct, you'd be the one justifying your position by proving Martinez landed more cleaner shots in these rounds. But the thing is, i know for a fact he didn't. Most of what he threw were flicking shots to the gloves. Murray was the one landing nearly all the clean punches.

I'll give you one more chance. Refuse, and you lose this discussion. If it's true what you're saying, then show me with actual evidence like i can with Murray. It's pretty simple.

Where are those world class fighters for Mugabi as well? How many times do you need to be asked with this? Let me see the names that match Golovkin and have him up there as an elite fighter. What seems to be the problem?

Dude the fight is on YouTube you can spout your nonsense all you want anyone with eyes can watch for themselves. Murray himself admits he lost the fight. You cried and said I wasn’t giving u a scoring analysis and round by round lol. You were given a clear one. Now you are crying saying you want punch time stamps in each round you are an absolute nutjob ROFL. Your money is gone. Accept the fact it found its way into a smarter person than you (like myselfs) pockets lol murray landed good shots and I agree with you many of Martinez’s punches didnt fully land and we’re arm flicks. But anyone who seen the fight knows Murray just didn’t do enough lol. He picked it up a bit in the middle rounds when Martinez slowed down but he clearly had a slow start and clearly lost the championship rounds. To one leg 38 year old maravilla lol

[BodyBagz]

What active fighter has a better resume than run of the mill, mediocre AF Nelo ?

[Sid-Knee]

Dude the fight is on YouTube you can spout your nonsense all you want anyone with eyes can watch for themselves. Murray himself admits he lost the fight. You cried and said I wasn’t giving u a scoring analysis and round by round lol. You were given a clear one. Now you are crying saying you want punch time stamps in each round you are an absolute nutjob ROFL. Your money is gone. Accept the fact it found its way into a smarter person than you (like myselfs) pockets lol murray landed good shots and I agree with you many of Martinez’s punches didnt fully land and we’re arm flicks. But anyone who seen the fight knows Murray just didn’t do enough lol. He picked it up a bit in the middle rounds when Martinez slowed down but he clearly had a slow start and clearly lost the championship rounds. To one leg 38 year old maravilla lol

I gave you the chance but it's clear you can't find clean scoring punches from Martinez. You lose this debate. All you did was come with delusional nonsense when i'm happy to go over the facts and evidence. But facts and evidence will always dominate delusions and Strawmen arguments. Sorry.

You have the same delusions where Mugabi is concerned as well as you haven't yet (Even though i've asked you to now about 20 times) given me the world class opponents he beat that matches Golovkin's resume and has him as an elite HOF level fighter up there with SRL and Tommy Hearns. Why do you think that is?

Now come back with another load of dribbling mess that has no answers to the questions what-so-ever. Just a bruised ego for me to laugh at while you flail around with nothing to support your clear ******ity.

[LAchargers373]

I gave you the chance but it's clear you can't find clean scoring punches from Martinez. You lose this debate. All you did was come with delusional nonsense when i'm happy to go over the facts and evidence. But facts and evidence will always dominate delusions and Strawmen arguments. Sorry.

You have the same delusions where Mugabi is concerned as well as you haven't yet (Even though i've asked you to now about 20 times) given me the world class opponents he beat that matches Golovkin's resume and has him as an elite HOF level fighter up there with SRL and Tommy Hearns. Why do you think that is?

Now come back with another load of dribbling mess that has no answers to the questions what-so-ever. Just a bruised ego for me to laugh at while you flail around with nothing to support your clear ******ity.

Lmao ok whatever you say. I’m waiting for you to explain why Murray himself claims he lost fight? Yet you yourself disagree with the actual fighter who was in ring? Why didn’t Murray complain about the slip/feet tanglement in the 10th that you claim is knockdown? That’s really really strange lol. You know better than the guy you’re claiming got robbed? Make it make sense shid knee lmao
when canelo got the first draw against GGG most people can admit golovkin deserved the win. there will always be a fair bit of controversy around that fight. trinidad vs ODLH will always be controversial. Martinez vs murray is not lol. The fighter who lost himself admits he lost. I’m just laughing at you lol. Tell us how much money you lost on this fight

[messi807]

well ppl who been in the ring, watch more than the 2 "big" fights a year understand what we see. too many idiots around here that haven't ever boxed, with opinions that sound moronic. like, yourself maybe

I've never heard anyone hold these opinions apart from 'arm chair forum casuals' no offence.

For example:- A major topic right now is Canelo ducking Benavidez amongst fans, coaches, analysts, fighters, trainers the whole damn lot.

When Ward retired? No traction or demand whatsoever to fight a guy still fighting in Canada, less than 10 fights, zero star power earning 50k a fight - especially after beating the #2 P4P fighter in the world.

Gotta use your brain, not your emotions.