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  • Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

    Hahahaha, tacos was an excuse so was "guys need to earn a fight with him" or "he wont fight mexicans"....they were some of the worst ones too but yall fanbois swallowed it down nice and easy. And for a fanboi who defends EVERY SINGLE OTHER EXCUSE Ginger says, whether it's "middleweight isn't his natural division" or ducking the #1 contender at smw, you're hilarious to tell a boxing fan to get off anyone's nuts. But keep cheerleading kid, just make sure to keep your skirt down, your chocha is showing
    Well Benavidez should be 1-1 vs. GAVRIL who was ranked what??? 20-30??

    Nope more like 50-60 at SMW!!!!

    Blah!!!!!!
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    • Originally posted by daggum View Post

      dawson moved down to fight ward. ward ducked bute btw after the tournament to fight drained dawson and tried to fight a bunch of other bums. go look up dmitri sartison-ward and then look up why hbo kicked ward off their network. its great stuff. wards own promoter admits in court ward didnt want to fight the guys hbo wanted: ggg, bute, froch 2 and instead wanted easy fights.

      also the tournament was rigged in wards favor from the start. ward refused to join unless he got all hometown fights, and we saw what happened in some of those...utter cheat fests against the likes of kessler and bika. they wanted ward to win the tournament so the rules were thrown out. its a shame bowe golota wasnt a heavy tourny fought in poland otherwise golota would have won it and he would have 2 ko wins over bowe lmao. great fighter right? oh wait ward is great because he got away with the cheating so its different. if you get caught cheating because you are the b-side you are a dirty cheat but if you make sure you are the a-side and refuse to fight unless you can cheat, you are great?

      oh yeah and when he fought kovalev what happened there? clear win for kov and one of the worst robberies ever. 2nd fight he punched him in the balls the entire fight and wrestled the entire fight, check the rules both illegal and the fight was literally stopped on ball punches by the most corrupt ref in boxing named tony weeks who has been exposed as a yes man and a-side cum bucket. yeah great stuff there...its so weird that all of wards fights end in controversy this guy just cant catch a break huh? its almost as if...HES CHEATING AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT
      A lot to unpack but I'll try to make this simple.

      First, the real source of your hatred seems to be Andre Ward beating up Kovalev, not once but twice and you need to let that go.

      Nobody avoided Lucian Bute because he was very beatable. Sure he was mean and dirty and he was also stopped dead on 3 occasions and beaten down at least 5 times. Carl Froch knocked Bute out and Ward smoked Froch. Carl Froch lost to Kesssler and Ward beat them both up easily, look that up. Dawson fighting Ward wasn't a money fight it was a fight Dawson chose because he thought he'd have a size advantage and got beaten up bad and went back to eating hamburgers...look that up.

      Attempting to make the case that Ward ducked GGG was too much. The crazy conspiracy thing and back to the Kovalev losses took everything off the cliff. You have no intention of having a rational debate because that's not your objective.

      Kovalev lost because he was an undisciplined drinker and Ward is a dog....pure and simple. The sooner you can admit that the sooner you can move on.
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      • Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post

        You’re an idiot man lmao. Martinez injured the leg BADLY in the last round vs Chavez Jr had surgery then reinjured it again training for the Murray fight. This is indisputable. It’s documented and well known he had surgery on the knee right after the JCC Jr fight. He had surgery again on the same knee right after the murray fight. He was 2 operations deep in that knee in 3 years by the time he fought cotto and 40 years old. Your bum a$$ hero Martin murray lost to 38 year old one legged fighter ROFL. Like I said go watch field lacrosse kid YDKSAB
        Wrong. Martinez tried to play down the KD against Chavez and CLAIMED he had surgery. He said he only went down due to his knee. Only after losing to Murray did he claim he had more surgery before their fight. I remember the build up well. About 5 days before the fight Martinez started talking about bad knees out of nowhere as the pressure of fighting at home and fighting someone from England (Find out about the history) started to build up. There was nothing wrong with his knees. You could tell by his movement. But when going down against Murray, he ironically does his knee in that required surgery. A homecoming will put you under stress. The thought of losing to an Englishman will put you under even more. Where you even watching boxing back then?

        I asked for the rounds you gave to Martinez as Murray clearly won it on my card. Also, tell me how you have a nobody like Mugabi next to actual great fighters like SRL and Hearns? That is insane.

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        • Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post

          Well Benavidez should be 1-1 vs. GAVRIL who was ranked what??? 20-30??

          Nope more like 50-60 at SMW!!!!

          Blah!!!!!!
          That's cute. And Alvarez should have an official loss or losses to GGGRANDPA but we all know yall fanbois won't admit it either....and according to yall, GGGrandpa was a bum too, yet till this day still Gingers best opp and it took him 3x while aging out GGGrandpa and pissing dirty.
          Last edited by El_Mero; 03-17-2024, 10:10 AM.

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          • Originally posted by El_Mero View Post

            That's cute. And Alvarez should have an official loss or losses to GGGRANDPA but we all know yall fanbois won't admit it either....and according to yall, GGGrandpa was a bum too, yet till this day still Gingers best opp and it took him 3x while aging out GGGrandpa and pissing dirty.
            Losing to P4P #1 at the time or losing to dude ranked #50+????
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            • Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post

              Why isn't a young dominant killer and clear long term number 1 contender in the division, not a legacy fight? List the legacy fights Canelo has had.
              How many has Benavidez had? It goes both ways. Sanctioning bodies need to force the fight, that’s the only way you detractors will get a semblance of a Canelo “ducking”. And note I say, “semblance”. Canelo’s made his bones already.

              But sure, make the fight. I would love to see these boards if Canelo squashes the Benavidez rally.

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              • Originally posted by TintaBoricua View Post

                How many has Benavidez had? It goes both ways. .
                No it does not go both ways actually. Benavidez is actually trying to get a legacy fight with Canelo, but he is being ducked. The fact Canelo needs to be forced to fight him just confirms he is ducking. Who forced Canelo to fight Charlo and Mungia? Oops.
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                • Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post

                  Losing to P4P #1 at the time or losing to dude ranked #50+????
                  The gavril fight was 6 and a half years ago. This is just like Floyd ducking marg and his fanboys Bringing up losses from early in margs' career. History repeats itself
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                  • Originally posted by factsarenice View Post

                    A lot to unpack but I'll try to make this simple.

                    First, the real source of your hatred seems to be Andre Ward beating up Kovalev, not once but twice and you need to let that go.

                    Nobody avoided Lucian Bute because he was very beatable. Sure he was mean and dirty and he was also stopped dead on 3 occasions and beaten down at least 5 times. Carl Froch knocked Bute out and Ward smoked Froch. Carl Froch lost to Kesssler and Ward beat them both up easily, look that up. Dawson fighting Ward wasn't a money fight it was a fight Dawson chose because he thought he'd have a size advantage and got beaten up bad and went back to eating hamburgers...look that up.

                    Attempting to make the case that Ward ducked GGG was too much. The crazy conspiracy thing and back to the Kovalev losses took everything off the cliff. You have no intention of having a rational debate because that's not your objective.

                    Kovalev lost because he was an undisciplined drinker and Ward is a dog....pure and simple. The sooner you can admit that the sooner you can move on.
                    You didn't unpack anything. You just added your own opinion. The court found that Ward was in the wrong. Were they Kovalev fans too??? Real arguments are based on fact. You have none. Facts show that Ward didn't want the guys HBO wanted. This has been done done death and their are many sources showing this. Ignorance is not a defense.. What you have are ad hominem attacks. Ward ducked Bute. Nunber 1 and number 2 coidknt fight because said he didn't want to then pursued bums. Bute losing to froch doesn't absolve Ward ducking. Bad and irrelevant argument. Roc nation admitted they weren't ready to fight ggg and wanted to fight in a year. How is that a conspiracy theory?thats just a fact of the offer. Once again look look up ignorance doesnt fly with me. Cognitive dissonance doesn't fly with me.. so here is where you dispute the facts...oh wait you can't! Now you will launch into more ad hominem attacks while ignoring the facts yawn
                    Last edited by daggum; 03-17-2024, 07:17 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post

                      No it does not go both ways actually. Benavidez is actually trying to get a legacy fight with Canelo, but he is being ducked. The fact Canelo needs to be forced to fight him just confirms he is ducking. Who forced Canelo to fight Charlo and Mungia? Oops.
                      Munguia is an alright fight. Benavidez better stay busy cause activity matters. Let it happen then…September 2024.

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