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  • Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post

    You are dealing in hypotheticals.
    who did he ever fight? He had many opportunities. The 3 people I named are BUMS. Name any non cab drivers on his resume that aren’t canelo jacobs or dervychenko. Find any elite opponents outside of canelo. Triple dud
    The fact that you'll ride a guys pole who was never a middleweight champion, while calling 3 actual middleweight champions (one unified and one two-time) bums and cab drivers says just about everything we need to know about you. LIke I tell people, have fun scrubbing toilets and fetching coffee at your 9-5.

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    • Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post

      He has just as many elite wins as GGG
      mugabi would have knocked out Lemieux geale and jacobs too like cmon man those 3 are trash. And they are golovkins best wins. If you are ggg fan which u seem to be aren’t u disappointed he never fought anyone? There were a lot of great fights out there for him
      I asked you a question. I hoped to get a straight answer. I didn't want a strawman argument in return.

      Who are these world class fighters Mugabi beat? Simple question my man.

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      • Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post

        You are dealing in hypotheticals.
        who did he ever fight? He had many opportunities. The 3 people I named are BUMS. Name any non cab drivers on his resume that aren’t canelo jacobs or dervychenko. Find any elite opponents outside of canelo. Triple dud
        Martin Murray beat Sturm, Martinez and Abraham for 3 world titles. He was ripped off in all of them.

        Murray and Geale are better and more proven than Chenko. Why would think he's better than both these two? Macklin who clearly beat Sturm for the WBA title but was robbed is better than Chenko.

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        • Originally posted by garfios View Post
          If you think he should have move on to make him look dumber, how do you think you guys look defending the indefensible? You're throwing gas to the fire and can't come out with half of a credible excuse. We critique floyd, why not ginger on such a blatant cowardly move? He needs to do the right thing and vacate so younger and hungrier fighters can make some money.
          There you go you said it ; vacate and move on
          I stated from the beginning that if he has no intentions of fighting his mandos or the top guys then might as well retire and be it
          But day in day out here biatching about it is just making him bigger than he is
          They say bad publicity is just as good as good publicity

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          • Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post

            This is the central issue I have with Ward: his complaints of Canelo always ring hollow when one remembers how he handled his own career. He's an opportunist and strategist just like Canelo. Ward used the excuse, "Well it was Dawson's idea!" but that didn't change the fact that Dawson hadn't fought at 168 in six years. He'll complain about Canelo cherry-picking Kovalev, and then critique him for moving up to fight Bivol. If Bivol moved down to 168 and fought Canelo, he'll say Canelo was trying to drain him. It is Ward's mission to negatively interpret everything Canelo does, so that we forget his own shortcomings. Ward seems to realize that he retired too early, and will never be remembered the way he believes he should be. So critiquing Canelo is a way to feed the sense of envy that burns within him. He says he doesn't knock the hustle, yet proceeds to do so.
            True. But what's also true is, both are opportunist frauds. They both cheated their opponents numerous times. Neither are great. Anyone who claims they are, doesn't know what a real great looks like.

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            • Originally posted by Oracle01 View Post

              But he's not so why do you keep mentioning it? Andrade, Plant and now Gvozdyk.
              Gvodzyk , not even in his division
              Andrade we all saw that he was overhyped or should I say overhyped for a super middleweight
              I give him credit for Plant

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              • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post

                Martin Murray beat Sturm, Martinez and Abraham for 3 world titles. He was ripped off in all of them.

                Murray and Geale are better and more proven than Chenko. Why would think he's better than both these two? Macklin who clearly beat Sturm for the WBA title but was robbed is better than Chenko.
                Lmao sorry you not gonna stand here and say Martin murray was elite I’m done here. YDKSAB

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                • Originally posted by Phatkid98 View Post
                  I agree, or as much as not fighting GGG tainted Wards.
                  GGG was a legit champ in his division IMO, but he was not trying to face Ward in ANY division. He absolutely avoided that smoke. Period.

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                  • Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

                    Gvodzyk , not even in his division
                    Andrade we all saw that he was overhyped or should I say overhyped for a super middleweight
                    You are literally doing monday morning quarter back when you say Andrade was over hyped just because Benavidez destroyed him. Even if he was over hyped, it was still a risk to fight such a fighter that Canelo and GGG ducked.

                    As for Gvozdyk, so what if he's not in the division? David is still being active and not waiting which was your claim.

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                    • Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post

                      Lmao sorry you not gonna stand here and say Martin murray was elite I’m done here. YDKSAB
                      Murray was world class. You beat world class fighters. You prove yourself world class.

                      Nothing on those world class opponents for Mugabi? That puts paid to that then. He was fringe level. Not elite. Never follow what Canastota says. You'll end up claiming some turkey as a great or something.

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