Comments Thread For: Devastating Anthony Joshua Wipes Out Francis Ngannou in Two Rounds

[IceTrayDaGang]

sucks for francis but i am kinda glad it happened.... francis was starting to get all big headed about his fight against fury talking about corruption in boxing, etc.. he was starting to think that boxing was really that easy and that he could just come in and beat any of the top HW..

it was a good reality check for francis to let him know that the fury he fought was not in top shape and although he felt that he won that fight, it was due to fury barely taking the fight serious... as soon as he steps up to a boxer that took the fight serious, he got knocked out in 2 rounds... so boxing is not as easy as franic thought it would be.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I'm not upset, i'm just asking you, that, in a "boxing vs MMA" context, what a boxing match is supposed to prove? that an elite boxer is better at boxing than an MMA fighter who is good at boxing in an MMA setting? is that something that really needed to be affirmed? is it a meaningful victory?

The MMA fighters (and Youtubers, and old retired boxers etc etc) arent "invading" boxing, the red carpet is being laid out for them. if boxing wasnt giving people with 0-0 records immediate multi million dollar paydays, PPV main events and fights with world champions this wouldnt be happening. The sport has allowed itself to become a clown show in a bid to stave off waning casual interest. We are now living in an era where most of the biggest fights that happen in a commercial sense partially or fully involve people who arent actual active boxers.

Yes you are upset, extremely upset.

Francis Ngannou vs Anthony Joshua was not 'Mixed Martial Arts vs Boxing'.

It was a Mixed Martial Arts fighter, coming into boxing because? He believes that his boxing skills where good enough to compete.

Anthony Joshua at no point of his career, cared about whoever was the Mixed Martial Arts Heavyweight Champion 'Joshua even stated it himself? When I was first approached by Ngannou, that he thought it was a gimmick fight'.

Boxers, NOT Mixed Martial Arts fighters, are the combat athletes being challenged here 'Historically this is how these type of match ups, have always developed'.

Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Rid**** Bowe 'None of these past Heavyweight Champions, cared for whoever was the mixed martial arts Heavyweight Champion. And even still in today's era, boxers universally in reality do not care about mixed martial arts fighters'.

Canelo Alvarez, Artur Beterbiev, Dmitry Bivol, Gervonta 'Tank' Davis, Devin Haney 'None of these boxers care about mixed martial arts fighters, the only time they will acknowledge them? Is when naturally another combat athlete challenges them'.

When boxers are competing in the Amateur ranks, they care about national titles, international competitions, and the Olympics.

When boxers are competition in the professional ranks, they care about Domestic, European, Commonwealth, World and Undisrupted World Championship titles 'They don't care about Mixed Martial Art fighters'.

Many people in the mixed martial arts world all believed that Francis Ngannou was good enough, in the martial art of boxing 'To beat many top level Heavyweights boxers'.

Joe Rogan, Ariel Helwani, Chael Sonnen and many more active and former mixed martial art fighters 'All believe that Francis Ngannou was going to beat Anthony Joshua'.

Chael Sonnen was convinced that Ngannou was going to beat Joshua 'Sonnen stated that he had never seen Ngannou hurt'.

Anthony Joshua obliterated Francis Ngannou inside 2 rounds 'Complete decimation. It is the worst combat loss of Ngannou's entire career'.

Note: Mixed Martial Art fighting is a sport which consist of great fighters, some of those athletes were experts and elite level competitors within their individual field 'As there have been Olympians and Olympic Champions who have competed in the sport'.

Francis Ngannou does not have a black belt in any Martial Arts from my understanding 'He is not really a expert in any Mixed Martial Arts discipline. But his strongest area of his game, was his boxing'.

And that is why Ngannou invaded boxing, this is not difficult to understand 'Boxers don't care about mixed martial arts fighters, unless they are challenge within their sport'.

Jon Jones is very quiet when it comes to boxing why? Because his boxing game, is not one of his greatest attributes 'From my understanding'.

Boxing is not trying to compete with Mixed Martial Art Fighters 'Boxers compete against boxers. But if a Mixed Martial Art fighters believes their boxing game is good enough to compete? Then these fights may still happen in the future'.

It is a natural competitive behaviour 'Similar dynamics have happened in other sports, that are closely related'.

Note: Boxers are the pinnacle combat sports athletes, therefore they will always be the Athlete's challenged 'You cannot just get all upset, when a Multi-Disciplined Combat sport Athlete believes they are good enough to compete in boxing, and then they get obliterated'.

Francis Ngannou was well aware of the consequences his team were aware 'And as I pointed out early in the week, they were completely spooked'.

I believe you just need to move on 'Move on from this TMLT87, just move on and watch some Mixed Martial Arts fights or do whatever will aid you at this time. Just move on, and accept the conclusion of the fight'.

Francis Ngannou is a great combat sports Athlete, who believed his boxing game was good enough to invade boxing 'Ngannou had one good fight vs Fury, and now he has just been obliterated by Anthony Joshua inside 2 rounds' etc.

[Willow The Wisp]

Correction: Fury didn't take the fight lightly, he said that he had a great 6 weeks camp for the fight. It's just that he couldn't do better, his game is based on weight bullying and dirt tactics and both didn't work for him vs a strong opponent with some basic boxing skills like Francis Ngannou unlike a weak and limited one-trick pony Wilder.

That is the same kind of Strong Opionion/Limited Knowledge nonsense that lead casual observers to beleive that Ngannou had a chin, and had a chance.

[TMLT87]

Yes you are upset, extremely upset.

Francis Ngannou vs Anthony Joshua was not 'Mixed Martial Arts vs Boxing'.

It was a Mixed Martial Arts fighter, coming into boxing because? He believes that his boxing skills where good enough to compete.

Anthony Joshua at no point of his career, cared about whoever was the Mixed Martial Arts Heavyweight Champion 'Joshua even stated it himself? When I was first approached by Ngannou, that he thought it was a gimmick fight'.

Boxers, NOT Mixed Martial Arts fighters, are the combat athletes being challenged here 'Historically this is how these type of match ups, have always developed'.

Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Rid**** Bowe 'None of these past Heavyweight Champions, cared for whoever was the mixed martial arts Heavyweight Champion. And even still in today's era, boxers universally in reality do not care about mixed martial arts fighters'.

Canelo Alvarez, Artur Beterbiev, Dmitry Bivol, Gervonta 'Tank' Davis, Devin Haney 'None of these boxers care about mixed martial arts fighters, the only time they will acknowledge them? Is when naturally another combat athlete challenges them'.

When boxers are competing in the Amatuer ranks, they care about national titles, international competitions, and the Olympics.

When boxers are competitin in the professional ranks, they care about Domestic, European, Commonwealth, World and Undisrupted World Championship titles 'They don't care about Mixed Martial Art fighters'.

Many people in the mixed martial arts world all believed that Francis Ngannou was good enough, in the martial art of boxing 'To beat many top level Heavyweights boxers'.

Joe Rogan, Ariel Helwani, Chael Sonnen and many more active and former mixed martial art fighters 'All believe that Francis Ngannou was going to beat Anthony Joshua'.

Chael Sonnen was convinced that Ngannou was going to beat Joshua 'Sonnen stated that he had never seen Ngannou hurt'.

Anthony Joshua obliterated Francis Ngannou inside 2 rounds 'Complete decimation. It is the worst combat loss of Ngannou's entire career'.

Note: Mixed Martial Art fighting is a sport which consist of great fighters, some of those athletes were experts and elite level competitors within their individual field 'As there have been Olympians and Olympic Champions who have competed in the sport'.

Francis Ngannou does not have a black belt in any Martial Arts from my understanding 'He is not really a expert in any Mixed Martial Arts discipline. But his strongest area of his game, was his boxing'.

And that is why Ngannou invaded boxing, this is not difficult to understand 'Boxers don't care about mixed martial arts fighters, unless they are challenge within their sport'.

Jon Jones is very quiet when it comes to boxing why? Because his boxing game, is not one of his greatest attributes 'From my understanding'.

Boxing is not trying to compete with Mixed Martial Art Fighters 'Boxers compete against boxers. But if a Mixed Martial Art fighters believes their boxing game is good enough to compete? Then these fights may still happen in the future'.

It is a natural competitive behaviour 'Similar dynamics have happened in other sports, that are closely related'.

Note: Boxers are the pinnacle combat sports athletes, therefore they will always be the Athlete's challenged 'You cannot just get all upset, when a Multi-Disciplined Combat sport Athlete believes they are good enough to compete in boxing, and then they get obliterated'.

Francis Ngannou was well aware of the consequences his team were aware 'And as I pointed out early in the week, they were completely spooked'.

I believe you just need to move on 'Move on from this TMLT87, just move on and watch some Mixed Martial Arts fights or do whatever will aid you at this time. Just move on, and accept the conclusion of the fight'.

Francis Ngannou is a great combat sports Athlete, who believe his boxing game was good enough to invade boxing 'Ngannou had one good fight vs Fury, and now he has just been obliterated by Anthony Joshua inside 2 rounds' etc.

Okay okay, i'm extremely upset apparently...


The reason these fights happen under boxing rules is simple, money. No one else is paying people with 0-1 records $20 million and giving them PPV main events and the opportunity to fight top 3 ranked opponents off the bat. Its as simple as that. If the UFC was willing to roll out the red carpet and burn money like that to lure boxers in to MMA fights, they could. Its nothing to do with anything being the "pinnacle" or the ultimate proving ground or any of that pretentious ****e.

[Willow The Wisp]

Maybe he just ate a little more and weren't as strict. But he trained as he usually does. The fear of losing is enough to make you take it seriously, it's called being profffesional

Fury typically trains and fights to the level of the opponent.
Klitschko, Wilder, Whyte; these were top ranked opponents and Fury shined.

Cunningham, Wallin and above all, Ngannou were deemed as no threat, and Fury accorded them little regard.

Thats Fury's way, nothing new.

Usyk will get the full-on Fury.


Props to AJ regardless. He is 100% reputation restored!

Ruiz and Usyk have officially become to Anthony Joshua's resume what Schmelling was to Joe Louis. What Frazier and Norton were to Ali. What McCall and Rahman were to Lennox Lewis. Just some stumbles along the way.

[Willow The Wisp]

Okay okay, i'm extremely upset apparently...


The reason these fights happen under boxing rules is simple, money. No one else is paying people with 0-1 records $20 million and giving them PPV main events and the opportunity to fight top 3 ranked opponents off the bat. Its as simple as that. If the UFC was willing to roll out the red carpet and burn money like that to lure boxers in to MMA fights, they could. Its nothing to do with anything being the "pinnacle" or the ultimate proving ground or any of that pretentious ****e.

I dont know about that.
I think that there very definately is a pinnacle, pretentious though it may be.

Most people do NOT want a career fighting.
Even self proclaimed tough guys shy away from putting their money where their mouth is on that point.
High risk and low prospect of big reward.

But, for those rare souls who DO want a career in fighting.....they'd ALL want to be Boxing, IF they Can do it; because it pays the most on every level, and ties it's stars to a long and glorious History, and it makes headlines across the planet.

Francis Ngannou used boxing and very little else to Slay the ranks of the UFC under MMA rules Completely (Miocic, Gane, Overeem, Velasquez, dos Santos, Blaydes, Hamilton, Arlovski). But all of this, for him, was nothing more than a stepping stone, to earn, in a non-traditional way, a shot at the Big Time, the Big Money, within the Pinnacle combat sport.

That's how it is.

[Smash]

Props to AJ regardless. He is 100% reputation restored!

Ruiz and Usyk have officially become to Anthony Joshua's resume what Schmelling was to Joe Louis. What Frazier and Norton were to Ali. What McCall and Rahman were to Lennox Lewis. Just some stumbles along the way.

does AJ not have to beat usyk for that to happen?

[Smash]

I dont know about that.
I think that there very definately is a pinnacle, pretentious though it may be.

Most people do NOT want a career fighting.
Even self proclaimed tough guys shy away from putting their money where their mouth is on that point.
High risk and low prospect of big reward.

But, for those rare souls who DO want a career in fighting.....they'd ALL want to be Boxing, IF they Can do it; because it pays the most on every level, and ties it's stars to a long and glorious History, and it makes headlines across the planet.

Francis Ngannou used boxing and very little else to Slay the ranks of the UFC under MMA rules Completely (Miocic, Gane, Overeem, Velasquez, dos Santos, Blaydes, Hamilton, Arlovski). But all of this, for him, was nothing more than a stepping stone, to earn, in a non-traditional way, a shot at the Big Time, the Big Money, within the Pinnacle combat sport.

That's how it is.

& fury is the pinnacle of the pinnacle of the pinnacle combat sport, the best and biggest of them all, human evolution max'ed out to its absolute max and beyond, he may look like humpty dumpty and smell like 2 year old unwashed socks but its all in the genes, all the way back to the beginning of the human race on this planet

[ELPacman]

MMA guys train (hypothetically of course) 25% striking, 25% kicking, 25% groundwork and 25% weird stuff. AJ, a boxer, trains 100% striking. There are levels to this. When someone thought Francis was the hardest puncher in MMA (and he probably was), that was all while training 25% of striking. Big difference between that and a guy whose been using all the muscles and tendons for striking all day, all week, all month, all year, for many years, to develop a punch that Francis evidently never felt before.

Even that bald guy who does interviews who has his own MMA podcast (not Joe Rogan, the other commentator/interviewer guy, he was Knockout Chaos), he had a post interview saying, he's never seen Ngannou even hurt in MMA and that this was shocking for him to watch.

I've been hard on AJ for awhile because of the Wilder bs, but honestly, I'm proud of him for what he did for our sport. He kept it alive and well respected, because had he lost, oh man, we would of never heard the end of it from the MMA side of things. Any boxing fan should be proud of AJ and what discipline and a power puncher in boxing did to a rookie coming in. No mercy, utter devastation.

[automaton89]

The people who picked or rated Ngannou ahead of this fight don't know boxing, I'll make it simple.

• Fury's performance showed he's on the decline
• AJ is a legitimate puncher at heavyweight

I left a few comments around here saying AJ would do it inside 5, I'm surprised he did it earlier.

And I hope people aren't shocked when Usyk Fury doesn't go the distance (I've got Usyk winning).

If Joshua fought the way he did against usyk he would have lost