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  • BodyBagz
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    #161
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza

    Not really.

    It's the definition of "cut off date". Not the definition of random.

    The testing would have been random, up to a cut off date.

    Is there a point here, or?
    You don't get to control when a RANDOM drug test can be taken
    Sorry about that

    Go ahead and have the last words

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      #162
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza

      So you're saying people said Floyd Mayweather was using PEDs?

      So is that not evidence that Floyd used PED's like you're saying it is for Pacquaio then?

      Which one is it, is it evidence or isn't it?

      I think you might want to take a nap and try again on this stuff if I'm being honest. Your grasp on what qualifies as evidence is totally out.
      People can say what they want but in trial they have to prove where it comes from.

      The basis of an imaginary Manny trial is on the point of him refusing.

      The basis of an imaginary Floyd trial is on fans saying he is on PEDS is what your offering, the evidence of 2 passed tests both sides of the fluids and the volume given would prove he wasn't, what could prove Manny wasn't when he wasn't tested at the time he refused, Floyd was and passed.

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        #163
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza

        Not really. Pacquaio underwent random blood testing without cut off dates plenty of times in his career.

        But regardless, it's still not evidence that he took PEDs. You said there's evidence, when, there isn't.

        In regards to other pro boxers who refused random drug testing. Off the top of my head I don't think there is one. Do you have a point with that?
        I never said there was evidence.

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          #164
          Originally posted by BodyBagz

          Sigh.....

          So, you don't really think Pac was juicing

          Have a swell evening/day
          How could you possibly land on that conclusion from my post?

          I literally in plain English, JUST SAID that in my opinion, the chances that Pacquaio used PED's during his career is very likely. You understand English, right? You read that part where I said that? So how do you then conclude that I'm saying the opposite to what I literally just said?

          The fact that there's a possibility that Pacquaio didn't use PEDs, which, there objectively is, has no bearing on my personal opinion that he more than likely did.

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            #165
            Originally posted by BodyBagz

            You don't get to control when a RANDOM drug test can be taken
            Sorry about that

            Go ahead and have the last words
            Right but that doesn't change the fact that he still was willing to undergo random drug testing, just up to a cut off date.

            Still none the wiser on what your point is here.

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              #166
              Originally posted by BodyBagz

              I never said there was evidence.
              Great then, so we can conclude there is no evidence that Pacquaio took PEDs.

              Which there isn't, so, good job.

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #167
                Originally posted by Roadblock

                People can say what they want but in trial they have to prove where it comes from.

                The basis of an imaginary Manny trial is on the point of him refusing.

                The basis of an imaginary Floyd trial is on fans saying he is on PEDS is what your offering, the evidence of 2 passed tests both sides of the fluids and the volume given would prove he wasn't, what could prove Manny wasn't when he wasn't tested at the time he refused, Floyd was and passed.
                Well, I'll say again that two negative tests absolutely does not prove that someone isn't taking PEDs.

                If Floyd was using that very questionable IV to mask PEDs then the two negative drug tests are totally irrelevant and prove exactly zilch.

                Right and him refusing a drug testing procedure is not proof of PED use. Thus the point.

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                  #168
                  In reference to the Manny is scared of needles remark in the press, by the look of it came from Arum.

                  “Four years ago, Manny's not afraid of needles. He's never been afraid of needles. Bob made that **** up to make sure that the first fight didn't happen, so write that,” Ariza told FightHype.com,
                  Alex Ariza revealed that Manny Pacquiao has “never been afraid of needles,” contrary to Bob Arum’s claim that the Filipino fighter wasn’t game on the idea of conducting random drug testing before a match.

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Roadblock
                    In reference to the Manny is scared of needles remark in the press, by the look of it came from Arum.

                    “Four years ago, Manny's not afraid of needles. He's never been afraid of needles. Bob made that **** up to make sure that the first fight didn't happen, so write that,” Ariza told FightHype.com,
                    https://www.ibtimes.com.au/boxing-ne...trary-what-bob
                    All Pac had to do was roll up his sleeve and all of this guessing and assuming would never happen

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by BodyBagz

                      All Pac had to do was roll up his sleeve and all of this guessing and assuming would never happen
                      Well no, not really.

                      Undergoing random drug testing doesn't prove you're not taking PEDs.

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