Dan Rafael: Canelo Alvarez decided to part ways with PBC after turning down a Guaranteed 35 million vs Jermall Charlo as PBC included an agreement that Canelo must face David Benavidez in September

[kiaba360]

Ok so your another delusional PBC hater who thinks AL Haymon was too ****** to do something that any random person on this forum would have known was a lay up, in prioritizing the Benavidez fight which is the most lucrative fight in the sport. Apparently Haymon is just incompetent.

There was no real bait and switch. They offered to pay him 35m to fight drunk Charlo if they agreed to fight Benavidez. The fact Canelo refused should prove why Davids name was never on the contract. Pure Fear.

We simply disagree on why Canelo is avoiding Benavidez and how PBC played a role in it. You believe it's out of fear, while I believe it's out of ego. PBC did not put Benavidez in the original agreement, and Canelo was not going to do them any favors because he's the A-Side. You think Canelo will not fight Benavidez at all, while I think he's delaying it because David isn't a top priority. I think Canelo may A-Side David into fighting him on DAZN. That's why I believe Benavidez should leave PBC.

[Oracle01]

We simply disagree on why Canelo is avoiding Benavidez and how PBC played a role in it. You believe it's out of fear, while I believe it's out of ego. PBC did not put Benavidez in the original agreement, and Canelo was not going to do them any favors because he's the A-Side. You think Canelo will not fight Benavidez at all, while I think he's delaying it because David isn't a top priority.

The problem is your position is illogical and not plausible. Mine is. Now try and give a plausible reason why Davids name was not in Canelos contract when it was the biggest most lucrative fight for not only PBC but Canelo!

[kiaba360]

The problem is your position is illogical and not plausible. Mine is. Now try and give a plausible reason why Davids name was not in Canelos contract when it was the biggest most lucrative fight for not only PBC but Canelo!

I'm assuming you're going to reference Sampson's $55M offer.

[garfios]

It's foolish to believe that a cash-cow would go along with a bait-and-switch when he previously acquiesced once before (Plant). Why not be up front from the beginning, assuming they always intended to ask Canelo to face Benavidez? Even if they thought he'd duck Benavidez, transparency is always best. On the other hand, is it difficult to believe that PBC wouldn't think to prioritize David during the negotiation period? That the Charlos or Spence were considered to be more important? PBC clearly has a star-building problem, and this may be a prime example of their ineptitude. In the end, was Canelo/Jermell actually worth it? PBC now has to find a new main event for their May card. Losing Canelo may have blown up the entire card.

They can pitch Morrell Jr vs benavidez for May.

[Oracle01]

I'm assuming you're going to reference Sampson's $55M offer.

I asked you a question. No idea why you are referring to my response. Try again. Why would Davids name not be on canelo's contract. give a plausible reason.

[kiaba360]

I asked you a question. No idea why you are referring to my response. Try again. Why would Davids name not be on canelo's contract. give a plausible reason.

I think we've gone through the possibilities in our numerous responses: 1) because Canelo didn't want it to be, 2) because PBC didn't ask for it to be. You said you thought it was smart to get Canelo's signature and work from there...but what's the point if Benavidez is not part of the original agreement? PBC is the one making Canelo the offer, so why can't they be held partly responsible? If PBC said, "we want you to face Benavidez as part of the deal, or we can't do business" and Canelo says "No, I'm good".... then we could've avoided Canelo/Jermell altogether and gotten better match-ups in Jermell vs. Tszyu/Crawford.

[kiaba360]

They can pitch Morrell Jr vs benavidez for May.

In an ideal world. Mbilli would also be a worthy opponent. Competing with Canelo is pretty risky, but Benavidez could use it to start staking his claim as the next Mexican star. It could work if they don't put it on PPV.

[Oracle01]

I think we've gone through the possibilities in our numerous responses: 1) because Canelo didn't want it to be, 2) because PBC didn't ask for it to be.

PBC not wanting the most lucrative name on the contract is about as plausible as the man on the moon, so we are stuck with option 1.

You said you thought it was smart to get Canelo's signature and work from there...but what's the point if Benavidez is not part of the original agreement? PBC is the one making Canelo the offer, so why can't they be held partly responsible? If PBC said, "we want you to face Benavidez as part of the deal, or we can't do business" and Canelo says "No, I'm good".... then we could've avoided Canelo/Jermell altogether and gotten better match-ups in Jermell vs. Tszyu/Crawford.

If you are a promotor and you want to sign the golden goose of boxing, you need to compromise, and make make the most of the opportunity to get his signature. They clearly thought they could still make a profit from him with the 2 fights, then Canelo could be convinced to fight Benavidez in Sept for a mega fight and get their profits there. It was a bit of a gamble but for the biggest name in the sport it was the right decision at the time. Tell me what part of that you don't understand.

[OnePunch]

Benavidez is PBC, he could dangle him. Keep coping. You need to be asking why did Canelo insist on 3 opponents would had never even fought at 168.

160, 154, and 147. That was his plan.

I agree it is terrible opponent selection. But the better question is why did Haymon agree to it and sign a contract? He should have told Canelo to kick rocks.......

[LG Motel 22]

**** that's sad... Hope the reporters come hard at him and Eddy in the upcoming media for his fight