Comments Thread For: Ellerbe: Thurman's Underdog Odds Against Tszyu 'Disrespectful'

[kiaba360]

Yes 5 years but its really about the movement and can he keep it up for 12 rounds, I cant see him beating Tim up but I can see him stealing it by boxing smart, its all on the line for Thurman a bad loss and his career is over, so if he wants to continue in boxing he needs to wind the clock back here or its all over , as much as this appears to be a one-sided fight I like the fact that its all on the line for both guys, if Tim lost the hype train falls of the tracks, I don't like the way the fight was made no title and all but it is intriguing.and if Tim does stop him in an impressive win then the Crawford will be next, personally I think TC will take him apart but Tim can punch and TC likes to mix it up.

This isn't a loss that should kill Tszyu, but it definitely feels like a must-win because of Crawford's looming shadow. Tszyu needs to win in order to keep that legacy fight alive because it's the only one near his weight class. Cynicism warning: I'm glad this isn't for the WBO title. If there's one guy that I wouldn't want to have a belt, it's Thurman. His inactivity/injury-proneness and entitlement makes him extremely unreliable. If Tszyu loses, he's way more likely to defend the title again before year's end with no drama. If Thurman won the title, we'd be worried about when his next fight would be.

This is a must-win for Thurman because he refuses to accept a role as gate-keeper. Losing to Tszyu would turn him into one.

[elfag]

I agree. Tszyu quietly became one of the most overrated fighters in the game. Most fighters are constantly being asked to prove themselves, Tszyu has been put on a pedestal for beating who exactly...?

Thurman is still living off his win of shawn porter, that was 8 ***ing years ago at this point. he has been shot for quite some time. Tszyu is going to run through him and stop him. Tszyu keeps on winning, people have been saying he is overhyped for years now but nobody has beat him and charlo dropped his belt instead of fighting him. Tszyu had a lot to live up to, people were always going to complain if he wasnt as good as his dad. being that charlo ducked him i dont know what else he could have done different that what hes already done.

[SUBZER0ED]

Thurman can try to **** him out in 1 (Tszyu's two knockdowns have come in the 1st round), and then settle into your strategy. Do you think if he starts off fast ala Garcia that he'll reveal his lack of power, thus emboldening Tszyu to pressure instead of counter-punch?

With Keith's long inactivity, he'll be far too rusty to try to **** out Tszyu early. If anything, given Thurman's age and ring rust, Tim will be the one better-served to try to **** out Keith, before he warms up and gets into a groove.

[kiaba360]

With Keith's long inactivity, he'll be far too rusty to try to **** out Tszyu early. If anything, given Thurman's age and ring rust, Tim will be the one better-served to try to **** out Keith, before he warms up and gets into a groove.

Tszyu typically doesn't start fast though. He builds up momentum throughout the fight, gradually chipping away at the opponent until they shatter. He makes the opponent feel his presence. If Thurman can, he should try to take advantage of the slow start. Maybe Thurman doesn't need to go for the KO early, but he needs to land something that makes Tszyu second-guess. Thurman needs to find a way to break Tszyu's confidence and composure early. Thurman shouldn't start the fight off sticking and moving.

[The Big Dunn]

PBC guys have always hated on Keith for not being a ****** stereotype.

Odd to see him coming out in favor of Thurman in any way.

He’s trying to sell the fight to people outside the sport.

Tszyu is going to murk Thurman rather easily.

[4truth]

I think Tszyu should be favored, considering Thurman's inactivity, but if I happen to be in Vegas between now and the fight, I'll drop $100 on Keith at about 7-1.

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah, but Keith started his career above welterweight and didn't work down to actually making 147 until his 11th fight.

He's not some little guy that started out lower and grew into welterweight, which is why he was one of the bigger punchers in the division.

Looking at Boxrec Keith has had 17 fights above 147, and 14 at 147 or below.

When was that?

[SUBZER0ED]

Tszyu typically doesn't start fast though. He builds up momentum throughout the fight, gradually chipping away at the opponent until they shatter. He makes the opponent feel his presence. If Thurman can, he should try to take advantage of the slow start. Maybe Thurman doesn't need to go for the KO early, but he needs to land something that makes Tszyu second-guess. Thurman needs to find a way to break Tszyu's confidence and composure early. Thurman shouldn't start the fight off sticking and moving.

I honestly don't think Keith comes out swinging. His timing will likely be off, and he'll have to find his bearings against a naturally bigger, younger, active Tszyu. If Tim recognizes this and attacks early enough, Thurman won't even have time to warm up.

[djtmal]

He’s trying to sell the fight to people outside the sport.

Tszyu is going to murk Thurman rather easily.

Nobody outside the sport cares about boxing

If Thurman can take this guy's punch, all your best made cherrypicking goes out the window

[The Big Dunn]

Nobody outside the sport cares about boxing

If Thurman can take this guy's punch, all your best made cherrypicking goes out the window

This is a ****** response. Please don’t quote me just to spew nonsense.