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  • Gaydrien Boner
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    #141
    Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll

    I'm happy to engage anyone in rational debate, but if you're going to insist that I am the one who deflects and evades questions, then you really must respond to my direct questions yourself, instead of completely disregarding valid points and then repeating your same question that I already addressed. Otherwise, it all becomes a waste of time. Most importantly, we must stay on a focused topic. Drifting and perpetually modifying the issue (or outright strawmanning my arguments) is exasperating and exhausting. I try to keep an open mind and accept that there are different and valid viewpoints, style preferences, etc, but too often I find myself engaging with people who insist that their own bizarre, biased speculations are 'facts' or who flippantly dismiss the achievements of objectively elite fighters.

    I'm not any kind of fanboy of Canelo's (I've criticized him plenty), but neither am I blind to what he's achieved. Canelo's resume is widely regarded as the best in the sport by knowledgeable fans. That means it compares favorably to every other active fighter in the sport. He has fought more champions than anyone else, and every other opponent since he became champion has been a top 10 contender or better. Your silly and endless 'write me a list' game isn't something that I'm going to indulge. You seem to believe that just because you don't like the order in which he fought his opponents or that an opponent of his moved up or down in weight, or that his opponent had a recent poor performance then that means Canelo's career is a fraud. Well, then that means everyone in this sport is a fraud. As I've said to many other people on this forum who look to discredit accomplished fighters, if you are inclined to find asterisks in ANY fighter's resume, you will find them. There is always some wrinkle, some issue to criticize. That's the life of the miserable critic.
    Just ignore that clown he don't know nothing about boxing other then sucking the ****s of UK fighters he is a miserable crackhead junkie

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    • Gaydrien Boner
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      #142
      Originally posted by Zaroku
      My tamales at narita airport banned. Dry ice gave out

      I miss my family making tamales


      now I’m watching Japanese boxers
      I can make you some red pork tamales either in a cornhusk or banana leaf (more common in southern mexico, guatemala and other countries in central america) btw Japanese fighters are technical but can brawl as well

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        #143
        Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll

        I'm happy to engage anyone in rational debate, but if you're going to insist that I am the one who deflects and evades questions, then you really must respond to my direct questions yourself, instead of completely disregarding valid points and then repeating your same question that I already addressed. Otherwise, it all becomes a waste of time. Most importantly, we must stay on a focused topic. Drifting and perpetually modifying the issue (or outright strawmanning my arguments) is exasperating and exhausting. I try to keep an open mind and accept that there are different and valid viewpoints, style preferences, etc, but too often I find myself engaging with people who insist that their own bizarre, biased speculations are 'facts' or who flippantly dismiss the achievements of objectively elite fighters.

        I'm not any kind of fanboy of Canelo's (I've criticized him plenty), but neither am I blind to what he's achieved. Canelo's resume is widely regarded as the best in the sport by knowledgeable fans. That means it compares favorably to every other active fighter in the sport. He has fought more champions than anyone else, and every other opponent since he became champion has been a top 10 contender or better. Your silly and endless 'write me a list' game isn't something that I'm going to indulge. You seem to believe that just because you don't like the order in which he fought his opponents or that an opponent of his moved up or down in weight, or that his opponent had a recent poor performance then that means Canelo's career is a fraud. Well, then that means everyone in this sport is a fraud. As I've said to many other people on this forum who look to discredit accomplished fighters, if you are inclined to find asterisks in ANY fighter's resume, you will find them. There is always some wrinkle, some issue to criticize. That's the life of the miserable critic.
        I'm not the one using strawman arguments. Don't gaslight me after doing exactly that and deflecting because you know the truth isn't on your side when i asked which fighters Canelo fought that had no funny business attached to it. You still haven't named any. Why? Because nearly all have funny business attached. If you're looking for other fighters who do likewise, they exist in North America. It's cheating, plain and simple, as well as being degrading cowardice. I don't care how you want to polish it up as. It's the absolute truth.

        How many fighters can you name that intentionally do nothing but make sure their opponents are at their weakest before taking them on that are not American or Mexican? I'd love to see you try and pain a narrative that i'd be only too happy to correct. In the US and Mexico though? Damn, where do you want me to start. The corruption stinks to high heaven too.

        As for Canelo's resume... It stinks when it's all calculated and fraudulent. Nothing really on there that stands as legitimate. Anyone could cheat their opponents and create a perception. But that's all it is. But thanks for not answering again and doing nothing but gaslighting me and putting up deflections. Very rational discussion.

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          #144
          Originally posted by Gaydrien Boner

          Just ignore that clown he don't know nothing about boxing other then sucking the ****s of UK fighters he is a miserable crackhead junkie
          Yeah, asking questions that can't be answered and getting nothing but deflections is showing i know nothing about boxing. That makes perfect sense. Yet you call me the crackhead?

          My underwear knows more about boxing than you'll ever know. I've literally forgotten more about this sport than you'll ever know. It's easy to see you couldn't hold a proper conversation about boxing. You don't know it's history nor it's present.

          But please continue to make a fool out of yourself.

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            #145
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee

            Yeah, asking questions that can't be answered and getting nothing but deflections is showing i know nothing about boxing. That makes perfect sense. Yet you call me the crackhead?

            My underwear knows more about boxing than you'll ever know. I've literally forgotten more about this sport than you'll ever know. It's easy to see you couldn't hold a proper conversation about boxing. You don't know it's history nor it's present.

            But please continue to make a fool out of yourself.
            Wow dribbling idiot, I put your ass on ignore then didn't, keep making a fool of yourself you Dumbass UKasual

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              #146
              Originally posted by Sid-Knee

              I'm a fake Brit? Where do you think i come from then if i'm faking being a Brit?

              I've got to be honest, that's a new one on me. But there is someone who does go around faking being a Brit. He goes by the name "Oldskool". You don't happen to know him do you? Hmmm.
              You act like one, you are NSB's biggest clown, you know nothing about boxing just cry a river UKasual

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                #147
                Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                I think you should have a rethink on Marquez and Estrada with those comments. Marquez ducked a lot. Unless you think fighters who stood in front of him like Katsidas, Diaz, and shot fighters like Casamayor were the best around?

                Maybe look up Marquez being the WBO mandatory to Naseem Hamed for 2 years but refusing to face him so got stripped of the position. Look into ducking Khan and many others.

                Ioka says hi to Estrada too.
                Estrada also ducked nakatani and inoue but he did beat chocolatito twice, Cuadras, Rungvisai, Tyson Márquez, Brian valoria and Giovani Segura, Márquez beat Manny Pacquiao with a brutal KO of the year, Also knocked Diaz spark out cold, katsidis got his ass kicked, Casamayor got taught a lesson for disrespecting him, Khan would have gotten that glass jaw shattered LMFAO

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                • Sid-Knee
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Gaydrien Boner

                  Wow dribbling idiot, I put your ass on ignore then didn't, keep making a fool of yourself you Dumbass UKasual
                  Still can't find any answers other than to throw ad hominem attacks?

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Gaydrien Boner

                    You act like one, you are NSB's biggest clown, you know nothing about boxing just cry a river UKasual
                    I'm schooling you aren't i? You're not giving any answers on boxing. You're just posting like a 5 year old. Although that's what i've come to expect from Mexican fans. They're the dumbest in all of sport. They're as dumb as they are corrupt.

                    The only one crying is you because you don't like the facts.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Gaydrien Boner

                      Estrada also ducked nakatani and inoue but he did beat chocolatito twice, Cuadras, Rungvisai, Tyson Márquez, Brian valoria and Giovani Segura, Márquez beat Manny Pacquiao with a brutal KO of the year, Also knocked Diaz spark out cold, katsidis got his ass kicked, Casamayor got taught a lesson for disrespecting him, Khan would have gotten that glass jaw shattered LMFAO
                      Estrada didn't come close to beating Gonzales twice. They were grotesque robberies. But i'm not surprised you defend them.

                      Marquez beating these fighters means he didn't duck others? What? I'm not denying he beat those fighters. I'm saying they clearly weren't the best around, dummy. I'd hope he'd beat low level and shot fighters. It isn't hard if you've got a bit of quality about you.

                      Marquez didn't think he'd beat Khan otherwise he would have taken one of his biggest paydays wouldn't he? For the record, i would have picked Khan in a landslide. It's a bad style matchup for him. That's why he ducked it.

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