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  • #31
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

    Of course its a great win. An undefeated HOFer in his prime. Not like he brought him up 2 weight classes like Rigo.

    Yes, he is tier below.

    Of course he has great wins. If it was anyone else, you’d call beating Manny, Cotto, Corrales, Hatton, Shane, Canelo great wins.
    Corrales is not as good as Duran. Not as good as hearnsm Hagler. Benitez. Etc...if you are saying that you are like a little person in a grocery store...reaching. Hatton is also nowhere near those guys come on and at 147? He wasn't a top guy at all.

    Manny cotto Mosley hoya were all well past it come on. I'll give him good wins but nowhere near great. Floyd accumulated a lot of good solid wins in his career he just lacked the great wins a great fighter needs to to great. He did that in purpose though so not sure why he should get credit for avoiding the best. Maybe he wins Is the only argument you can make but when you rank fighters you jsvd to rank them based on what they did and I don't see the resume to be among the greats. That's not hating. I dont have ggg on the same level as srl or Ali for the same reason. Lot of good wins but only 1 great win over prime non drained canelo. Still more than Floyd but nowhere near srl or ali
    Last edited by daggum; 02-21-2024, 12:48 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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      Kotsya quit on his stool against Hatton in June, 2005. That was exactly the same time Floyd moved up to 140 Ibs to destroy Gatti so when exactly should Floyd have fought Tszyu?
      A prime PAC was destroyed by Marquez in 2012 so when was his prime?
      Margarito was destroyed by Mosley who got beat up by Floyd a year later.
      Lara and GGG fought at 154 and 160. Floyd’s first fight at 154 was in 2012. So when exactly did Floyd duck those guys? Why didn’t they drop to 147 to challenge Floyd who started his career at 130 Ibs?
      Lmao at those mental gymnastics.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by daggum View Post

        Corrales is not as good as Duran. Not as good as hearnsm Hagler. Benitez. Etc...if you are saying that you are like a little person in a grocery store...reaching. Hatton is also nowhere near those guys come on and at 147? He wasn't a top guy at all.

        Manny cotto Mosley hoya were all well past it come on. I'll give him good wins but nowhere near great. Floyd accumulated a lot of good solid wins in his career he just lacked the great wins a great fighter needs to to great. He did that in purpose though so not sure why he should get credit for avoiding the best. Maybe he wins Is the only argument you can make but when you rank fighters you jsvd to rank them based on what they did and I don't see the resume to be among the greats. That's not hating. I dont have ggg on the same level as srl or Ali for the same reason. Lot of good wins but only 1 great win over prime non drained canelo. Still more than Floyd but nowhere near srl or ali
        You think GGG has a better resume than Floyd?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by daggum View Post

          Corrales is not as good as Duran. Not as good as hearnsm Hagler. Benitez. Etc...if you are saying that you are like a little person in a grocery store...reaching. Hatton is also nowhere near those guys come on and at 147? He wasn't a top guy at all.

          Manny cotto Mosley hoya were all well past it come on. I'll give him good wins but nowhere near great. Floyd accumulated a lot of good solid wins in his career he just lacked the great wins a great fighter needs to to great. He did that in purpose though so not sure why he should get credit for avoiding the best. Maybe he wins Is the only argument you can make but when you rank fighters you jsvd to rank them based on what they did and I don't see the resume to be among the greats. That's not hating. I dont have ggg on the same level as srl or Ali for the same reason. Lot of good wins but only 1 great win over prime non drained canelo. Still more than Floyd but nowhere near srl or ali
          Read what I wrote about Corrales. I said tiers below those men.

          Floyd retired as an ATG, best of his era, 1st ballot HOFer that headlined his class.

          He beat everyone he needed to. There are top tiet boxers that decided to delay the fights as has been documented multiple times. Toothaches, ppv percentage, drug testing etc.

          Not going to revisionist history his career​.

          You celebrated ggg’s win over Ouma as some kind of huge win. Same for Loma over Rigo.

          If Mayweather was from Northern European or Russian country you’d be celebrating him.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by psychofusion View Post

            You think GGG has a better resume than Floyd?
            Overall no but he does have a better win than him over canelo. Floyd was just a stat accumulator like a basketball player who scores 30 points but never makes the finals.

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            • #36
              I guess it's possible it could break the exhibition PPV record of Tyson and Roy Jones's bout.

              It also might not, if it happened, as many were so disappointed when they had their mega money fight years ago.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post

                Read what I wrote about Corrales. I said tiers below those men.

                Floyd retired as an ATG, best of his era, 1st ballot HOFer that headlined his class.

                He beat everyone he needed to. There are top tiet boxers that decided to delay the fights as has been documented multiple times. Toothaches, ppv percentage, drug testing etc.

                Not going to revisionist history his career​.

                You celebrated ggg’s win over Ouma as some kind of huge win. Same for Loma over Rigo.

                If Mayweather was from Northern European or Russian country you’d be celebrating him.
                That's just your opinion. Guy with 0 great wins can't be the best of an era imo. He didn't best everyone he he to that's fanboy talk. He cleaely ducked prime marg Cotto and pac that is well documented. Took less money to fight bums like Sharma and Zab insteadof marg..Retired to avoid cotto. Flat fee to pac after pretending it was about drug testing changed the goalposts. Coincidence every time a threat was around he didn't fight? Magical thinking. I never say ggg over ouma is a good win that's straw man stuff. Ggg isn't on srl or alis level. Neither is Floyd. You are the one revising his career and saying he took on all challengers. Laughable
                Last edited by daggum; 02-21-2024, 01:04 PM.
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                • #38
                  [QUOTE=Zaroku;n32176326]
                  Originally posted by edpboxing View Post

                  Not sure how true this part is, but I’ve seen a clip of Floyd on the pivot podcast floating around, saying he got paid 4M after Pac did that. [/s
                  Sugar Shane Mosley rocket him big time

                  he’s an escape clause addict and yet he lives on avoiding prime fighters

                  That’s floyd or flizoyd he avoided great fights and ithinkhe lost to a Mexican taco vendor who schooled him
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                  Mosley rocked him? Thats your argument? Lol
                  We can literally count the number of punches landed flush on Floyd in 50 fights. Can you say that about any other fighter?
                  As for your “prime” fighter, that’s a mythical argument thrown around by toxic haters because when challenged to name the “prime” fighters with context of course, they start calling you names.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by daggum View Post
                    Floyd the avoid noid and his 0 great wins against prime fighters. Srl with 4 and Ali with 4. Best the noid can muster is a 152 pound canelo. Close?
                    Don't forget that he beat more Top 5 ranked fighters than Leonard beat ranked fighters in general.

                    Don't forget how much stock you put into rankings now.
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                    • #40
                      After that trash fight when they were past it but still active, no way do I tune in for any future fight between them. You two got me once, but never again!

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