Comments Thread For: Joshua Claims Ngannou Is The Biggest Challenge Of His Life

[pollywog]

Yep...it sure is Joshy.

But dont worry. If you lose there's always the rematch. Theres ALWAYS the rematch...

Imagine having a rematch clause for a crossover exhibition fight...lol

[Toffee]

I agree that if Joshua loses, his rep turns to dust. It's semantics, but I'd describe it as the biggest risk to his career, but not the biggest challenge. Fighting Wlad or rematching Usyk were probably the biggest challenges -- facing them was a bigger ask in terms of difficulty (in other words, a bigger challenge) than facing Ngannou, though Ngannou presents a bigger downside.

To be honest you could say the same if he went and fought anyone with little chance.

The reality is that he gets to fight a limited opponent (therefore low risk) for incredible money (high reward).

[richardt]

Yeah I get that but….this hw boxing era is primarily filled with inferior talent. It’s like the minor leagues. We all know ufc guys wouldn’t stand a chance vs anyone on the p4p list.

But the UFC were like Mice dancing on the table celebrating with the Cat out of the house from the Fury embarrassment and I can only imagine how much they would hoot and holler if Francis is even remotely competitive against Joshua - that would be a Boxing world face palm.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I don’t agree that an mma fighter , not a boxer , with a 1-1 record will be fighting for the heavyweight championship
Not sure why your getting your panties in a bunch but that is my point
You don’t have to agree with it or anything else
I won’t lose any sleep whatsoever

That is not the point, which I am talking about 'You was attempting to mock Joshua's attitude, with him saying that Ngannou is his biggest challenge in his career'.

When in reality? That is precisely the type of attitude, any boxing coach would want to see in their fighter 'At all levels, both amateur and professional'.

The most important challenge or obstacle for any fighter or athlete 'Must be the challenge in front of them'.

This analogy can also be applied to life, the challenges and obstacles in the present 'Are your most important challenges to a certain extent, because they are the fights in-front of you'.

Anthony Joshua is displaying 'The eye of the tiger'. Now is not the time for Joshua, to suddenly be dismissive and passive towards any fighter or challenge 'The fights he is having now, are all of his biggest challenges'.

If Joshua somehow and someway, is going to fight his way back into title contention 'He has to win these fights'.

Note: So you have a issue with a Mixed Martial Arts fighter, potentially being given the opportunity to fight for the World Heavyweight title? Who fault is that? Who is responsible, for Francis Ngannou finding himself in this position? Tyson Fury is the fighter who started a battle with Francis Ngannou, and did not legitimately to conclusively win that battle.

Francis Ngannou won the 10 round fight vs Tyson Fury, the statistics and action of the fight show this 'Unfortunately he was just not given the decision. Tyson Fury was given the decision'.

Francis Ngannou definitely has earned big fights in boxing, and if he wins those big fights 'Then he deserves more opportunities'.

Fighting Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua back to back are mega fights, and challenges for any Heavyweight 'If Ngannou can win these fights, then I understand what you are saying but? If a Heavyweight fighter can win those fights, then people would have to recognize that fighter as a title contender'.

Tyson Fury created this situation, he started this battle with Francis Ngannou 'But did not conclusively win the battle'.

Many people are in agreement within boxing, that a Heavyweight fighter has to step up 'Somebody has got to step up and stop Francis Ngannou'.

Anthony Joshua is that fighter etc.

[TMLT87]

But the UFC were like Mice dancing on the table celebrating with the Cat out of the house from the Fury embarrassment and I can only imagine how much they would hoot and holler if Francis is even remotely competitive against Joshua - that would be a Boxing world face palm.

The UFC and Ngannou burned bridges big time so they dont celebrate what he does. MMA fans? maybe. I think they have a right to tbh. Its pathetic that the boxing world is letting 0-0 MMA fighters come and box literal active top 5 ranked boxers in PPV main events. Its like they're trying to use the name value of MMA guys to generate business with an (on paper) lower risk factor than fighting a boxer with comparable name value. So you've got Fury fighting MMA guys instead of Usyk or AJ and now AJ doing the same thing instead of fighting Fury or Wilder. These guys deserve it to backfire on them and boxing as a sport deserves it for playing host to ****ing DOZENS of these ****** crossover fights since 2017 in some barrel scraping desperation move to get casual attention.

[MulaKO]

That is not the point, which I am talking about 'You was attempting to mock Joshua's attitude, with him saying that Ngannou is his biggest challenge in his career'.

When in reality? That is precisely the type of attitude, any boxing coach would want to see in their fighter 'At all levels, both amateur and professional'.

The most important challenge or obstacle for any fighter or athlete 'Must be the challenge in front of them'.

This analogy can also be applied to life, the challenges and obstacles in the present 'Are your most important challenges to a certain extent, because they are the fights in-front of you'.

Anthony Joshua is displaying 'The eye of the tiger'. Now is not the time for Joshua, to suddenly be dismissive and passive towards any fighter or challenge 'The fights he is having now, are all of his biggest challenges'.

If Joshua somehow and someway, is going to fight his way back into title contention 'He has to win these fights'.

Note: So you have a issue with a Mixed Martial Arts fighter, potentially being given the opportunity to fight for the World Heavyweight title? Who fault is that? Who is responsible, for Francis Ngannou finding himself in this position? Tyson Fury is the fighter who started a battle with Francis Ngannou, and did not legitimately to conclusively win that battle.

Francis Ngannou won the 10 round fight vs Tyson Fury, the statistics and action of the fight show this 'Unfortunately he was just not given the decision. Tyson Fury was given the decision'.

Francis Ngannou definitely has earned big fights in boxing, and if he wins those big fights 'Then he deserves more opportunities'.

Fighting Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua back to back are mega fights, and challenges for any Heavyweight 'If Ngannou can win these fights, then I understand what you are saying but? If a Heavyweight fighter can win those fights, then people would have to recognize that fighter as a title contender'.

Tyson Fury created this situation, he started this battle with Francis Ngannou 'But did not conclusively win the battle'.

Many people are in agreement within boxing, that a Heavyweight fighter has to step up 'Somebody has got to step up and stop Francis Ngannou'.

Anthony Joshua is that fighter etc.

Anyways you assuming something and being reality are really two different things
Yes , a fighter like AJ telling me that he’s fighting a guy who is 0-1 and having to say this is the biggest fight of his life , it really means AJ doesn’t think much of his career or his of winning
You standing up for this chit , being a boxing fan , are just protecting a fraud whichever way you wanna put it
Had it been another fighter , would you have the same attitude , just another boxer who’s 0-1 lmfao
No you’d be scrutinizing this like the rest of the boxing wiorld but I see that you have nuthugging problems and want to justify a guy who won a gold medal and has had an extensive boxing career
YOU making this an important fight or the fight that’s in front of him or wtv it is your saying only justifies that this crossover fight , cause recall this is a crossover fight which HE should win hands down but your fear of him losing makes you wanna make threads saying this is huge
Bullchit , that’s what it is
If he fights mma vs Nagannou would you think that AJ would have a chance ? No
But the crossover coming to boxing you give him the title of the fight in front of you
I ain’t even buying it and neither is the boxing world
Then you wanna reward the guy ( mma guy ) by saying it’s ok for him to fight for a championship
More bullchit and I bet your not a gambler cause all I see is someone who would bet with their heart when in ******** their is no place for chit like that

[Marchegiano]

I mean, it is his riskiest.

Franny is just a big question mark. We've seen him once against one man who has a habit of fighting just above his opponent's level.

That's my main interest in seeing Francis against Anthony.


Anthony Joshua, in terms of temperament and mercy is not Tyson Fury or Wladimir Klitschko. If he has the major advantage over Franny he doesn't do one sided fights that are boring because one guy can't do any better and the other guy is too merciful to do anything more than they have to the former, he's going to beat the **** out of Ngannou.

If he is able.

Francis is in his first boxing match where the other guy isn't going to just beat him, he's going to beat the utter **** out of him, unless he's able and talented enough to protect himself.

I'm not saying Fury went light on Franny, for sure, I'm just saying it's in his character, he's done it before, he does it all the time really. Joshua doesn't do that **** so I'd be more impressed with Francis's ability to resist Joshua than I was his ability to put Fury down.

Anyway, my point here is AJ is the real boxing test for Francis and he knows it. He knows the Fury fight basically told us nothing, it told him nothing, and he's going to find out what this man is made of for himself while us fat lazy slobs watch.


It's a good ****in' fight and y'all need get off Josh's **** over it.














I ain't even half a Joshua fan man. TF this world getting to. Been hating on the ***** since what like 2014? Y'all got everything so ****ed up a Joshua hater is out here telling y'all nah he's doing good atm actually

[MulaKO]

The UFC and Ngannou burned bridges big time so they dont celebrate what he does. MMA fans? maybe. I think they have a right to tbh. It’s pathetic that the boxing world is letting 0-0 MMA fighters come and box literal active top 5 ranked boxers in PPV main events. like they're trying to use the name value of MMA guys to generate business with an (on paper) lower risk factor than fighting a boxer with comparable name value. So you've got Fury fighting MMA guys instead of Usyk or AJ and now AJ doing the same thing instead of fighting Fury or Wilder. These guys deserve it to backfire on them and boxing as a sport deserves it for playing host to ****ing DOZENS of these ****** crossover fights since 2017 in some barrel scraping desperation move to get casual attention.

Thank you
This is speaking truthfully
Don’t care what anyone says ; it’s a fughin crossover fight and him stating that this is the biggest fight of his career doesn’t hold ground
A fughin joke

[Willow The Wisp]

Yeah I get that but….this hw boxing era is primarily filled with inferior talent. It’s like the minor leagues. We all know ufc guys wouldn’t stand a chance vs anyone on the p4p list.

I completely disagree that this is a weak heavyweight era.

I agree so strongly that I lay out a slice of my reasoning for the edification of all.

First - The standard critic, circa 1976:

"This hw boxing era is primarily filled with inferior talent. It’s like the minor leagues.
Ali, the champion, lost to Frazier and Norton and pretty much lost to 17-4 bum Jimmy Young and Doug Jones too. Floored by Sonny Banks, Henry Cooper, Frazier and Chuck Wepner, HaHa. Liston, Williams and Folley were all too old. Ali is very over-rated.

The Number 1 contender is Ken Norton, who may have beaten Ali twice but got knocked out by George Foreman and....Jose Luis Garcia! What a bum.
Number 2 is Jimmy Young! Guy couldn't break an egg for breakfast with his best shot. The man lost the Roy Williams, Randy Neumann and honestly, to Billy Aird just a couple years ago. How does he get a number two spot?!!!
Number 3 is Joe Frazier!!!!!! This guy is washed up and old as Methuselah! He should've retired last year after Manilla!
Number 4 is George Foreman. He got exposed to the world by Ali as a big thumper with no backup plan and he runs out of gas quick. He sucks, and you mark my words that after 1976 we will never hear about him again.
Number 5, Ron Lyle. What a joke! Ranked five in the world even though he's lost 3 of his last 4, to Ali, Foreman and Young who all suck, and looked like crap barely beating glass jaw Earnie Shavers!!!!!!!!
Number 6, Earnie Shavers. Yaaa. A stiff breeze knocks this guy out every time. How can a guy with losses to the likes of Ron Stander and Bob Stalling get into the top ten! It's a mystery.
Number 7, Duane Bobick. OK, he beat Cuban Teofilo Stevenson at the 71' Pan-Am games but he didn't follow through at the Olympics the following year, when it really mattered. He's 33-0 but I'm holding off before I agree that he's the next champion. He's got Wepner next. Thrilling.
Number 8 is Joe Bugner!!!!! How many failures will it take to shake that loser out of this weak top ten?? They call all British Heavyweights "Horizontal Heavyweights" for a reason. He's there as a placeholder as a courtesy to England, because the Ring Magazine knows that British Heavyweights will never be a real presence in the division, ever!
Number 9 is none other than "The Bayonne Bleeder" himself, Chuck Wepner! Thats divisional depth for you. Wow.
Lastly, they have saved the number 10 spot for....Randy Neumann, the 2nd best big man in New Jersey!!!! Cong**** to him for that!

Next thing you know, Bobick spit-out Larry Holmes is going to find a spot in the top 10, according to a recent article. Talk about a guy going nowhere fast!".


Second - The "Careful what you Say" Principle:

The Ring Magazine top Ten:

February 2024

Ring Champion- Oleksandr Usyk
1. Tyson Fury
2. Anthony Joshua
3. Zhilei Zhang
4. Joseph Parker
5. Filip Hrgovic
6. Frank Sanchez
7. Jared Anderson
8. Joe Joyce
9. Deontay Wilder
10. Agit Kabayel


The Ring Magazine top Ten:

February 2005

Ring Champion- Vitali Klitschko
1. Chris Byrd
2. John Ruiz
3. Hasim Rahman
4. James Toney
5. Monte Barrett
6. Andrew Golota
7. Fres Oquendo
8. Jameel McCline
9. Corrie Sanders
10. Lamon Brewster

[Jab jab boom]

I completely disagree that this is a weak heavyweight era.

I agree so strongly that I lay out a slice of my reasoning for the edification of all.

First - The standard critic, circa 1976:

"This hw boxing era is primarily filled with inferior talent. It’s like the minor leagues.
Ali, the champion, lost to Frazier and Norton and pretty much lost to 17-4 bum Jimmy Young and Doug Jones too. Floored by Sonny Banks, Henry Cooper, Frazier and Chuck Wepner, HaHa. Liston, Williams and Folley were all too old. Ali is very over-rated.

The Number 1 contender is Ken Norton, who may have beaten Ali twice but got knocked out by George Foreman and....Jose Luis Garcia! What a bum.
Number 2 is Jimmy Young! Guy couldn't break an egg for breakfast with his best shot. The man lost the Roy Williams, Randy Neumann and honestly, to Billy Aird just a couple years ago. How does he get a number two spot?!!!
Number 3 is Joe Frazier!!!!!! This guy is washed up and old as Methuselah! He should've retired last year after Manilla!
Number 4 is George Foreman. He got exposed to the world by Ali as a big thumper with no backup plan and he runs out of gas quick. He sucks, and you mark my words that after 1976 we will never hear about him again.
Number 5, Ron Lyle. What a joke! Ranked five in the world even though he's lost 3 of his last 4, to Ali, Foreman and Young who all suck, and looked like crap barely beating glass jaw Earnie Shavers!!!!!!!!
Number 6, Earnie Shavers. Yaaa. A stiff breeze knocks this guy out every time. How can a guy with losses to the likes of Ron Stander and Bob Stalling get into the top ten! It's a mystery.
Number 7, Duane Bobick. OK, he beat Cuban Teofilo Stevenson at the 71' Pan-Am games but he didn't follow through at the Olympics the following year, when it really mattered. He's 33-0 but I'm holding off before I agree that he's the next champion. He's got Wepner next. Thrilling.
Number 8 is Joe Bugner!!!!! How many failures will it take to shake that loser out of this weak top ten?? They call all British Heavyweights "Horizontal Heavyweights" for a reason. He's there as a placeholder as a courtesy to England, because the Ring Magazine knows that British Heavyweights will never be a real presence in the division, ever!
Number 9 is none other than "The Bayonne Bleeder" himself, Chuck Wepner! Thats divisional depth for you. Wow.
Lastly, they have saved the number 10 spot for....Randy Neumann, the 2nd best big man in New Jersey!!!! Cong**** to him for that!

Next thing you know, Bobick spit-out Larry Holmes is going to find a spot in the top 10, according to a recent article. Talk about a guy going nowhere fast!".


Second - The "Careful what you Say" Principle:

The Ring Magazine top Ten:

February 2024

Ring Champion- Oleksandr Usyk
1. Tyson Fury
2. Anthony Joshua
3. Zhilei Zhang
4. Joseph Parker
5. Filip Hrgovic
6. Frank Sanchez
7. Jared Anderson
8. Joe Joyce
9. Deontay Wilder
10. Agit Kabayel


The Ring Magazine top Ten:

February 2005

Ring Champion- Vitali Klitschko
1. Chris Byrd
2. John Ruiz
3. Hasim Rahman
4. James Toney
5. Monte Barrett
6. Andrew Golota
7. Fres Oquendo
8. Jameel McCline
9. Corrie Sanders
10. Lamon Brewster

I can’t take you seriously when you’re trying to run down atg’s such as Ali, foreman and Frazier while trying to defend an era where (as per your ring list) considers AJ to be a top 3 heavyweight. That’s laughable. For the record, the Klitchko era was extremely weak too. The last hw era that elite level boxers was the era with Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe etc. This current crop of hw’s is weak and AJ is one of the most overrated fighters in history. Primarily because Brits loved him and wanted him to be great. Unfortunately he isn’t and is also a weak minded quitter. Have a great day though.