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  • #21
    Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post


    Yeah there are bigger guys than Fury in other sports, and many are more athletic too, but in boxing it is not common at all to see a guy that big move the way he does and have the boxing ability he has. I dont like the guy very much and think hes overrated, but he is definitely a bit exceptional in that regard. The trade off I guess is he doesnt hit as hard as a guy that big probably should.

    I dont think much about Fury/Usyk can be deduced from the Ngannou fight. Ngannou is 270 himself with almost the same reach as Fury. Hes obviously extremely strong with dangerous power, and hes probably a better athlete than either Fury or Usyk too. Fury/Usyk is a very different type of fight.
    The biggest advantages in boxing are reach and height, its not athletics its fight tall and hit far, most other sporting athletes have fast switch muscles which are more explosive but run hotter and gasses easier, the HWs today are not that good as far as boxing goes they are just big men and fight that way against others like them, if you matched all C graders somebody is going to be the best of them. the real fighters are much smaller where agility, power, and endurance are all of the charts p4p; the heaviest punchers in boxing are HWs, yet it's the little guys that have all the in-ring fatalities, its because p4p they hit faster, and hit harder for longer with a much higher skill set, the HWs are like sloths with mallets, the real pit bulls in boxing are 118 to 175.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

      No he does not, Tyson Fury at no point in his career 'Has Fury ever had better movement, speed or athleticism than Oleksandr Usyk'. That statement you have just made, is complete and utter cliche media narrative trash.
      Well it's a good thing I never said that then isn't it.

      Come back to me when your prediction of Audley Harrison winning the world title comes true.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post


        Yeah there are bigger guys than Fury in other sports, and many are more athletic too, but in boxing it is not common at all to see a guy that big move the way he does and have the boxing ability he has. I dont like the guy very much and think hes overrated, but he is definitely a bit exceptional in that regard. The trade off I guess is he doesnt hit as hard as a guy that big probably should.

        I dont think much about Fury/Usyk can be deduced from the Ngannou fight. Ngannou is 270 himself with almost the same reach as Fury. Hes obviously extremely strong with dangerous power, and hes probably a better athlete than either Fury or Usyk too. Fury/Usyk is a very different type of fight.
        Ngannou is not a better athlete than Usyk, but? He is most likely a better athlete than Fury.

        Ngannou in his fight vs Fury for me 'Showed how good he was, but also were he is lacking big time'.

        Note: I don't think Ngannou is a great offensive fighter, and his endurance specific to boxing is concerning 'Having just power, does not make you a great offense fighter'.

        Ngannou vs Fury was not a fast paced fight, soon as Ngannou realized Fury's power was not having much effect upon him 'He should of really pressured Fury more, in certain area's of the fight i.e When Fury was hurt'.

        Even Wilder has this instinctual ability to go from 0-100, when he has a fighter hurt 'Ngannou seemed to be devoid of this ability'.

        Ngannou did win the fight vs Fury 'And I don't think that was down to Fury being in terrible condition'.

        On the topic of Fury, show me his recent fights were he has displayed elite level movement and athleticism inside the ring?

        Fights vs Whyte and Chisora, don't really count 'Becausse those fighters can hardly move inside the ring, at this stage of their career'.

        Anthony Joshua for sometime now, years has objectively been a superior fighter to Fury in terms of movement 'And his ability to navigate around the ring'.

        Wallin could not get close to Joshua 'Wallin had no issue, getting close and finding Tyson Fury' etc.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

          I thought the higher pfp fighter was most likely to be favourite. I guess if fury lost to Francis you could still cling to idea fury was favourite against usyk if you wanted?.
          But we will find out soon
          True. I'm definitely buying the fight. Gotta see it real-time.

          Everyone's guess is as good as anyone else's, for now.

          Fury with a six-pack and a purpose going to that body; Usyk with all his skills going after that 3 month old gash.

          One World = One Word Champion

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          • #25
            Originally posted by TMLT87 View Post

            Hes probably a better athlete than either Fury or Usyk too.
            ​Meh.
            To be fair, so is Caitlyn Jenner.

            Athletic excellence to being a fighter is like having a clear mind to being a Chess master.
            It's really no more than a great place to start.​

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            • #26
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post

              What?

              The combination of skills and size and the specific matchup are what decides if your favorite. Not triangle theories.
              Lmfao

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                Why is everybody that trains hard roided lol, Fury will come in the best shape he has come in he knows he cant take Ursk lightly he has got to be in great shape and after last time out his pride is also bruised.
                Was he banned for two years or not? With the kind of money on the line and the decline most athletes face at 30 you think a guy with serious drug and drink problems who has not taken good care of himself is suddenly in Superman form clean? Ok, I have a tower with a clock in the center called Big Ben I can sell you.

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