Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk Promoter on Tyson Fury Sparring Footage: It's Not a Convincing Video; Too Many Questions

[Theshotyoudontsee]

Totally understand people not liking a fighter. I can't understand the amount of vFury hate. The guy beat Wlad, had mental issues for a few years, blew up to 400 pounds, almost killed himself and did tons of drugs. He pulled himself together, came back and gave three (ok maybe two) highly entertaining fights with Wilder and destroyed the biggest puncher in the sport.

During that time AJ got beat twice and so that fight lost a bit of it's luster. Still Fury offered it and it was obvious Hearn wanted AJ nowhere near Fury. Usyk pulled out of negotiations with Fury in the first fight, both Warren and Usyk's team said that. The Saudi's had offered huge money and so they were told to wait. Then according to several sources Fury offered a a few other fighters big money and they said no.

So here we are and Fury gets a freak cut, validated by the Saudi's and medical reports and doctors....and now people say that Fury is ducking Usyk? Who is 7 inches shorter, has a shorter reach than Fury and doesn't have big power at the weight.....and Usyk just got semi exposed when Dubois hit him with a body shot that had him crying (and that bodyshot was legal in most fights)....

Fury boxes just as well as Usyk. Usyk is a tough dude and good fighter, but he hasn't looked amazing at HW. So why in the hell would Fury duck him, with a massive payday on the line?

People saying "well we knew this would happen".....huh? Usyk pulled out of negotiations in the first fight and immediately his manager went to the press blaming it on Fury, an obvious PR move to save face for Usyk. And we now know 100%, the fight was postponed for the Saudi money.

Usyk's team seem sneaky and do all they can to put the blame on Fury. When if you look behind the scenes, Usyk uses his team to talk **** so he can come off as above all of it. Fury says what he thinks.

I have liked both guys throughout their career, I don't care who wins. I believe Fury will. But the constant silly rhetoric about Fury seems unwarranted.

[Smash]

Totally understand people not liking a fighter. I can't understand the amount of vFury hate. The guy beat Wlad, had mental issues for a few years, blew up to 400 pounds, almost killed himself and did tons of drugs. He pulled himself together, came back and gave three (ok maybe two) highly entertaining fights with Wilder and destroyed the biggest puncher in the sport.

During that time AJ got beat twice and so that fight lost a bit of it's luster. Still Fury offered it and it was obvious Hearn wanted AJ nowhere near Fury. Usyk pulled out of negotiations with Fury in the first fight, both Warren and Usyk's team said that. The Saudi's had offered huge money and so they were told to wait. Then according to several sources Fury offered a a few other fighters big money and they said no.

So here we are and Fury gets a freak cut, validated by the Saudi's and medical reports and doctors....and now people say that Fury is ducking Usyk? Who is 7 inches shorter, has a shorter reach than Fury and doesn't have big power at the weight.....and Usyk just got semi exposed when Dubois hit him with a body shot that had him crying (and that bodyshot was legal in most fights)....

Fury boxes just as well as Usyk. Usyk is a tough dude and good fighter, but he hasn't looked amazing at HW. So why in the hell would Fury duck him, with a massive payday on the line?

People saying "well we knew this would happen".....huh? Usyk pulled out of negotiations in the first fight and immediately his manager went to the press blaming it on Fury, an obvious PR move to save face for Usyk. And we now know 100%, the fight was postponed for the Saudi money.

Usyk's team seem sneaky and do all they can to put the blame on Fury. When if you look behind the scenes, Usyk uses his team to talk **** so he can come off as above all of it. Fury says what he thinks.

I have liked both guys throughout their career, I don't care who wins. I believe Fury will. But the constant silly rhetoric about Fury seems unwarranted.

Theshotyoudontsee

is this the fury cut shot? lol

[TheOneAboveAll]

like Klimas calling someones wife a bítch then his ass nipping when confronted about when he was the one who said "And you can quote me on that" whilst having the audacity to call someone a coward...

Not only that Krassyuk coming out claiming they were having fits negotiating with Fury/Warren only later on (after the Dubois fight) admitting they never even tried to negotiate.

You are pretty much the only non-gypsy who thinks Fury's team is more credible than Usyk's.

[crimsonfalcon07]

SO sick of this soap opera B.S... wake me up when they're doing the ring walk.

You might want to wait until the bell has rung for the 4th round.

Saw a video recently of a guy breaking his arm climbing into the ring for his first Muay Thai fight... Wouldn't put it past someone to trip and hurt themselves climbing through the ropes at this point.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1-Hh1EMlXy/

[turnedup]

I mean it shows him getting hit and then edited to have him standing in front of the camera, release the unedited footage. Show us him walking away from the sparring partner and show us when he went into the ring. It’s fury, so folks need all the proof and rightfully so. I hope he pops dirty again though, cause he ain’t gonna lose all that weight clean, just like I don’t believe he’s ever been a clean fighter.

[Boro]

You are pretty much the only non-gypsy who thinks Fury's team is more credible than Usyk's.

I don't think Fury's team is more credible than Usyk's that doesn't change their respective behaviours though.

[vitruvian]

Here we go with more asinine conspiracy theories about a man who stood to make a career high payday worth a hundred million dollars and the opportunity to become the undisputed heavyweight champion but he's "scared" and faked a cut to get out of the fight people who think this way are Immature childish idiots who desperately need to grow TF up.

[takenotes]

I don’t think fury was scared but I do believe he was having a bad camp and was not in shape

[Jsrr]

Totally understand people not liking a fighter. I can't understand the amount of vFury hate. The guy beat Wlad, had mental issues for a few years, blew up to 400 pounds, almost killed himself and did tons of drugs. He pulled himself together, came back and gave three (ok maybe two) highly entertaining fights with Wilder and destroyed the biggest puncher in the sport.

During that time AJ got beat twice and so that fight lost a bit of it's luster. Still Fury offered it and it was obvious Hearn wanted AJ nowhere near Fury. Usyk pulled out of negotiations with Fury in the first fight, both Warren and Usyk's team said that. The Saudi's had offered huge money and so they were told to wait. Then according to several sources Fury offered a a few other fighters big money and they said no.

So here we are and Fury gets a freak cut, validated by the Saudi's and medical reports and doctors....and now people say that Fury is ducking Usyk? Who is 7 inches shorter, has a shorter reach than Fury and doesn't have big power at the weight.....and Usyk just got semi exposed when Dubois hit him with a body shot that had him crying (and that bodyshot was legal in most fights)....

Fury boxes just as well as Usyk. Usyk is a tough dude and good fighter, but he hasn't looked amazing at HW. So why in the hell would Fury duck him, with a massive payday on the line?

People saying "well we knew this would happen".....huh? Usyk pulled out of negotiations in the first fight and immediately his manager went to the press blaming it on Fury, an obvious PR move to save face for Usyk. And we now know 100%, the fight was postponed for the Saudi money.

Usyk's team seem sneaky and do all they can to put the blame on Fury. When if you look behind the scenes, Usyk uses his team to talk **** so he can come off as above all of it. Fury says what he thinks.

I have liked both guys throughout their career, I don't care who wins. I believe Fury will. But the constant silly rhetoric about Fury seems unwarranted.

He gets a lot of hate because of his history of making it very difficult to negotiate. Idk if you know but there are actual videos of him trying to put every road block to deter the Usyk fight, stating that Usyk will get only 30% of a split vs him to which Usyk agreed and the negotiations fell apart after Fury didn't want to agree to even 50/50 terms for a rematch if Usyk won.

There is also his interview with Sky shortly after the Usyk fight fell apart (the first time) of him saying that he will never fight the other top heavy weights and he will only fight for money now.

Beating a 40 year Wlad in one of the most boring fights I've ever seen and Wilder 3 times does not make you the "best ever" as he proclaims every time there is a camera pointed at his face!

You talk about Usyk getting exposed vs Dubois, what about Fury getting exposed vs Ngannou??? A guy who has literally never boxed a single professional fight in his life and knocked Fury and left him more bruised up than I have ever seen Fury. Look at his post fight interview. Fury looked like he got jumped!

At the end of the day I have no idea how people like you can defend a fighter who openly states that he has no interest in fighting other top fighters, only fights for money, doesn't care about being undisputed, clearly makes it difficult to actually sign a fight, cheats with elbows, is a PED user, and who is a pathological liar...
VS
Usyk, a guy who literally did the opposite and fought every top fighter in his class, trying to fight the top fighters in another class which he is clearly at a size disadvantage, actually signs fights ASAP (his negotiations for both AJ fights went fast), doesn't fight for money, and who is actually trying to chase glory and become undisputed!

[richardt]

The big problem is if Fury loses, he will have built-in excuses on hand how he couldn't train properly. Before the cut, he couldn't have made any.