A lot of UK "fans" owe Anthony Joshua an apology

[Kzbox]

If anyone is ever hyped to be the best there's ever been (or since Ali) then I think your own intelligence needs to kick in. The chances of them being the best ever are pretty slim. A new best ever doesn't happen very often.

But Joshua is a future Hall of Famer. Twice unified champion. One of the best in the sport over the last couple of decades. With a fan draw that has rarely been matched.

I mean, that young hyped up fighter did ok didn't he?

His detractors tend to set incredibly high standards for a fighter that they don't rate

One of the best in the sport over the last couple of decades < exactly the type of talk i was talking about, top 10 heavyweight sure but that kind of hype after what he showed in the first Ruiz fight and the Usyk fights is unwarranted. During his "peak" most of his opposition was old past it fighters (povetkin, pulev, wlad, ect) his resume and skills have always been overrated.

[Toffee]

One of the best in the sport over the last couple of decades < exactly the type of talk i was talking about, top 10 heavyweight sure but that kind of hype after what he showed in the first Ruiz fight and the Usyk fights is unwarranted. During his "peak" most of his opposition was old past it fighters (povetkin, pulev, wlad, ect) his resume and skills have always been overrated.

They were top 10 fighters mate. He beat the people in the division. Mandatories, unifications... he fought them and he beat them until he got to Usyk.

The Ruiz loss is nowhere near as significant as you think. He avenged it quickly. Just as plenty of Champions before him did when they inevitably got shocked.

He's objectively one of the best over the last 20 years.

[Tatabanya]

Joshua has had the second best career of any heavyweight in the last 20 years mate.

Wlad
AJ
Vitali
Fury
Usyk
Wilder

I was very high on AJ at the outset, but must admit that the Ruiz loss disheartened me quite a lot.

But he fought valiantly - twice - against Usyk, and that's a point many tend to overlook following his famous rant.

[Kzbox]

They were top 10 fighters mate. He beat the people in the division. Mandatories, unifications... he fought them and he beat them until he got to Usyk.

The Ruiz loss is nowhere near as significant as you think. He avenged it quickly. Just as plenty of Champions before him did when they inevitably got shocked.

He's objectively one of the best over the last 20 years.

But they were past it they were once upon a time top tier contenders but by the time AJ got to them not so much that needs be taken into account when looking at his overall resume like when people speak like AJ beat back to back killers on murderers row when that was never the case.

[Atypicalbrit]

I was very high on AJ at the outset, but must admit that the Ruiz loss disheartened me quite a lot.

But he fought valiantly - twice - against Usyk, and that's a point many tend to overlook following his famous rant.

I agree the Ruiz loss was a bad one, that I still think he learned the wrong lessons from. Personally I don't think AJ has maxed his potential as a fighter, but still he's done exceptionally well and people need to lay off the guy (I'm talking to fury fanboys)

[Tatabanya]

I agree the Ruiz loss was a bad one, that I still think he learned the wrong lessons from. Personally I don't think AJ has maxed his potential as a fighter, but still he's done exceptionally well and people need to lay off the guy (I'm talking to fury fanboys)

As a neutral observer, I can tell that Fury's low level of dignity is enough for me to prefer Joshua to him in any case. That's a shame, for I thought Fury was an intelligent man until a while ago.

I was keen on Fury when he came back from drugs and depression to handle Wilder without problems in their first fight. But the way he behaved in the subsequent years has really turned me off. The passing of time is gradually giving you a reason to affirm that AJ is superior to Fury in most aspects.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I don't hate Joshua at all but when you hype something up to be what it's not there will be a fallout when he is eventually exposed

Anthony Joshua has never been exposed, he has just been beaten 'Olympic Champion's, and two times World Heavyweight Champion's with numerous World title defenses against World level fighters, do not really get exposed. They just get beaten by better fighters'.

Everyone knows Anthony Joshua's level in the sport, Joshua has been thoroughly tested 'And it is official, Anthony Joshua has been consistently a World level and once upon a time a Elite level Heavyweight within this era of Heavyweights'.

Anthony Joshua has beaten every single fighter, he has ever faced expect Oleksandr Uysk 'People may mock him for his loss to Ruiz Junior, but he avenged that loss'.

Note: The fall-out your are talking about, are just opportunist trying to knock somebody when they are vulnerable or they suffer a loss. It is the opportunist who time and time again, THEY are the people who get exposed.

We see them all the time in life and sport, switching their loyalty's up real quick and betraying themselves. To align with whoever and whatever is dominating or popular within the status quo. They are the people that get exposed most of all in a sport like boxing, way more than the fighters in my opinion.

People know Joshua's level, he has been one of the more component and solid Heavyweights of this era 'And he has actually overachieved in the sport' etc.

[Kzbox]

Anthony Joshua has never been exposed, he has just been beaten 'Olympic Champion's, and two times World Heavyweight Champion's with numerous World title defenses against World level fighters, do not really get exposed. They just get beaten by better fighters'.

Everyone knows Anthony Joshua's level in the sport, Joshua has been thoroughly tested 'And it is official, Anthony Joshua has been consistently a World level and once upon a time a Elite level Heavyweight within this era of Heavyweights'.

Anthony Joshua has beaten every single fighter, he has ever faced expect Oleksandr Uysk 'People may mock him for his loss to Ruiz Junior, but he avenged that loss'.

Note: The fall-out your are talking about, are just opportunist trying to knock somebody when they are vulnerable or they suffer a loss. It is the opportunist who time and time again, THEY are the people who get exposed.

We see them all the time in life and sport, switching their loyalty's up real quick and betraying themselves. To align with whoever and whatever is dominating or popular within the status quo. They are the people that get exposed most of all in a sport like boxing, way more than the fighters in my opinion.

People know Joshua's level, he has been one of the more component and solid Heavyweights of this era 'And he has actually overachieved in the sport' etc.

Well i have never been a big believer in Joshua not a hater either i was indifferent to him until how he behaved after the Usyk loss and it just showed the kind of guy he was a sore loser and an ******* trying to start fights with an old man. You say he was tested i say right place right time considering most of the "elites" he beat was over the hill by the time he got to them not saying he's a bum either hes a good fighter but i would never class him as the best of this era.

[Guest]

Well i have never been a big believer in Joshua not a hater either i was indifferent to him until how he behaved after the Usyk loss and it just showed the kind of guy he was a sore loser and an ******* trying to start fights with an old man. You say he was tested i say right place right time considering most of the "elites" he beat was over the hill by the time he got to them not saying he's a bum either hes a good fighter but i would never class him as the best of this era.

Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser.

[TMLT87]

I think Fury is more naturally talented but hes also undisciplied, unprofessional and a lying dodgy ****head. AJ is basically a workmanlike fighter with solid power, size and athleticism, but hes always in shape and for all the criticism hes had over the years he fought the most consistently decent level of opposition out of him, Fury and Wilder. I also think he deserves credit for being the initial reason the HW division started gaining some commercial appeal again. Lets face it nobody really cared when Fury beat Wlad in a snoozefest and "retired", and Wilder was in obscurity fighting cans in Alabama for ****ing years on end. Both of those guys mainly got popular through attaching their name to AJs.